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Posted Friday, March 29, 2013 10:09 AM


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Jim,

You can dislike it, but that doesn't mean you're right or wrong. That was my point. There are hundreds of millions of office users. Lots of them like the changes, especially non-technical ones. The ribbon makes lots of work easier. It's annoying for some of us in technology, but it's not the end of the world.

Not sure what you mean about deleting an icon. I can remove things from the start menu and put them back. I can do the same with the desktop. If there's a specific bug, and there may be, I'd be interested in knowing what it is.







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You can dislike it, but that doesn't mean you're right or wrong. That was my point. There are hundreds of millions of office users. Lots of them like the changes, especially non-technical lazy ones.


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Jim,

You can dislike it, but that doesn't mean you're right or wrong. That was my point. There are hundreds of millions of office users. Lots of them like the changes, especially non-technical ones. The ribbon makes lots of work easier. It's annoying for some of us in technology, but it's not the end of the world.

Not sure what you mean about deleting an icon. I can remove things from the start menu and put them back. I can do the same with the desktop. If there's a specific bug, and there may be, I'd be interested in knowing what it is.


You're right. I don't have to like it. I can try to get some other software.

More times than I can count I have been handed heaps of data with messy delimiters, extraneous lines and have to put it in to some format that can be used in a database. In Word using search and replace and a modified Tables menu bar I can do it in minutes. There is no easy way to do the same thing with ribbon.

Thank you for clarifying this for me. I guess when the prior versions no longer work, it's time to dump Office.

-- Not sure what you mean about deleting an icon.

I had a coworker who has played with Win8 a little. He was saying that without the Start Bar add-on app, there was no way to add an app icon back to the desktop. I don't have the details, but he is at the sys admin level to my DBA level.




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A desktop icon is a shortcut. Easy-peezy for me to add one back.

It's not a one click, and I certainly think not having a "create a shortcut" option from the start menu is slightly annoying, but you don't do this often.

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/426-73-make-shortcuts-desktop-win8







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I always turn off the "Send usage data to Microsoft" setting when installing....


Same here.


I have turned it off in everything MS, and 99.9% of all other applications. I've also have steadily dropped off of doing surveys.

From what I can tell M$ has not listened to anyone in any fashion. The office suite went to the ribbon in 2007, continued it in 2010, and I believe it is in 2012. The ribbon has not worked for me and I can't foresee a way that it ever will.

Then at the OS level, I glanced at Win 8 but will not use it. I have Win7 as my primary OS now, but I hack it back to as close to XP as I can. AeroGlass just frustrated me for a long time.

Hah! I'm with you there except that I'll probably learn to use Windows 8 just so I can buy new hardware without having to foot for Windows 7 copies. There are already start menu replacements to get some familiar functions back so its not a big deal killer for me. A positive for Windows 8 from what I hear is that Microsoft is finally not expecting Moores law to continue, and they are paying some more attention to resource usage, so that will help offset the irritating UI some, at least for me.

I know I didn't like Unity on Ubuntu, and many Gnome changes, but ultimately I'm trying to be more accepting of change. Its going to happen, and if you want to stay current with your computing, change is part of it.


Probably the reason that Halo 4 has succeeded is because their head of the department told Steve Ballmer when it came to game design and backed it up with facts.


Having the Steve Ballmer's around is probably just something companies have to do, ie., a cost of doing business is that you have to have some "suits" to allow the techies to ship product. Folks don't have to like it, but they probably have to accept it.
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