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Posted Thursday, February 14, 2013 12:04 PM


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Stephanie J Brown (2/14/2013)Fortunately, I don't work for the government..


Oh yeah? wait a while. With the way things are moving towards federalizing,borrowing, and offshoring everything today in our society, we will all be working for them soon, or at least until the country goes belly up and taps out.. Then it won't matter, because China will own us all.. Small and medium private enterprise is doomed in this country right now IMHO. They are being taxed out of existence, while large private enterprise is slowly being federalized by all the litany of government regulations they now have to abide by and enforce.. It's a brave new world now people.


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Stephanie J Brown (2/14/2013)Fortunately, I don't work for the government..


Oh yeah? wait a while. With the way things are moving towards federalizing,borrowing, and offshoring everything today in our society, we will all be working for them soon, or at least until the country goes belly up and taps out.. Then it won't matter, because China will own us all.. Small and medium private enterprise is doomed in this country right now IMHO. They are being taxed out of existence, while large private enterprise is slowly being federalized by all the litany of government regulations they now have to abide by and enforce.. It's a brave new world now people.


By the time you add up all the federal, state, and local taxes, then add in the fees, licenses, social security, medicare, gas tax, phone tax, and so on some say you are paying over 40% of everything you make to some form of government. So we all already work for the government, they just do not pay us we have to pay them. We get a lot but they sure take a lot as well.

But I diverge...


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Posted Thursday, February 14, 2013 12:26 PM


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Miles Neale (2/14/2013)By the time you add up all the federal, state, and local taxes, then add in the fees, licenses, social security, medicare, gas tax, phone tax, and so on some say you are paying over 40% of everything you make to some form of government. So we all already work for the government, they just do not pay us we have to pay them. We get a lot but they sure take a lot as well.



Agreed Miles, but they are not done with taking either. Don't forget Obamcare that's right around the corner.. That will kill most of the remaining surviving private business in this country. Only the private industry giants will survive that one, but like I said, they are slowly being federalized anyway. The government is playing PAC-MAN right now, and it is only the first phase of things to come.. Most people don't even realize (or even care) what is happening around them right now.


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Posted Thursday, February 14, 2013 10:21 PM
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In our industry solutions should really come under immense pressure.Business managers and users ask how long should we wait for the system to be up?Do I know? When I proactively prevent problems and systems are stable they wonder what I do in my office everyday. That is our job, provide solutions and create ideas that avoid problems at all.

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Competition for jobs gets more intense all the time and the employees that look for problems and provide solutions without being asked will be the most valuable. They will stand out from their peers and are more likely to not only keep their jobs during down times, but will get asked to solve the interesting and challenging problems.

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Posted Thursday, February 21, 2013 10:06 AM
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In terms of managers wanting to know the root of a problem, I think it depends on the manager. Most will want to know at some point, after all they're bound to be asked by their bosses. A bad manager will want to know what caused the issue while it's being fixed and you realistically don't have that information, a good manager will let you (and help you) focus on fixing the issue, give you time to analyse the issue afterwards and only then ask what caused it and what can be done to prevent it happening again.

Assuming your manager is responsive to such things (if not there's probably little hope either way), simply telling them there's a problem does little more than put extra work on their desk, so little surprise it might not be appreciated. Giving them one or more solutions at the same time makes things easier for them, and they're far more likely to be receptive to any ideas you might have.

The only issue I have with this idea is that it assumes you're capable of providing a solution, and it's quite possible that won't be the case. I'm quite capable of identifying a problem with an application or something for instance, but I'm not a developer, and I wouldn't know where to start in order to resolve it. The best I can hope to do it provide as much information as possible so someone with the required skills and replicate the issue and fix a solution to it.
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Keith Langmead (2/21/2013)
...The only issue I have with this idea is that it assumes you're capable of providing a solution, and it's quite possible that won't be the case. I'm quite capable of identifying a problem with an application or something for instance, but I'm not a developer, and I wouldn't know where to start in order to resolve it. The best I can hope to do it provide as much information as possible so someone with the required skills and replicate the issue and fix a solution to it.

Good point. The person that identifies the problem isn't always the one that can fix it. However, as a developer, I greatly appreciate those who try to provide as much information as possible, especially information that helps me replicate the issue.
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Keith Langmead (2/21/2013)
...The only issue I have with this idea is that it assumes you're capable of providing a solution, and it's quite possible that won't be the case. I'm quite capable of identifying a problem with an application or something for instance, but I'm not a developer, and I wouldn't know where to start in order to resolve it. The best I can hope to do it provide as much information as possible so someone with the required skills and replicate the issue and fix a solution to it.

Good point. The person that identifies the problem isn't always the one that can fix it. However, as a developer, I greatly appreciate those who try to provide as much information as possible, especially information that helps me replicate the issue.


Woah there ladies and gentlemen!!!

I guess we are saying that in a mature environment that we would welcome issue discovery early and hope that, when raised, as much salient information is provided. Also we would look for the most appropriate person to resolve the issue which is not necessarily the discoverer nor the person who raises the issue.

This thread appears to suggest that governmental departments are immature. For those of you who have heard the debates in Westminster I am sure that this would not be surprising.


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