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Steve Jones - SSC Editor
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Posted Saturday, December 15, 2012 12:34 PM
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I definately agree. It would be nice to have a method to easily determine what a particular scenerio would cost licensing wise as you are starting to architect a solution. It would help in making specific decisions that would affect the final solution.
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Posted Saturday, December 15, 2012 6:55 PM
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This is one of the more confusing areas of the product for me, and one that can't really be mastered by technical skill. Perhaps a Microsoft Connect item is in order. Unfortunately,
this connect feedback
is the only pertinent thing I could find in a minute or two.
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Agreed, I grasped that per VM there are 4 core licenses necessary. So you only need 4 no matter the underlying hardware cluster (if you only use 4 virtual cpu's and 1 VM)?
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I am happy to see this addressed, even if only in an article like this. Licensing for SQL Server is so bad our organization is considering moving to Oracle! There are people in management who feel Oracle is less expensive.
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Posted Monday, December 17, 2012 2:21 AM
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The new licensing model is hurting Microsoft’s own business in the long run. Profit can be made in several ways, especially for software the best way is to have a small profit on as many costless copies as you can. While the new SQL Server (1012) has some interesting features that I would love to use, that may not happen for another 5 years due to the current licensing policy.
For many small businesses, upgrading or even licensing anything under the new policy is a no go as it is way too costly and restrictive. Microsoft looks like the new Oracle in respect to this, squeezing what they can for no sensible reason. It’s a shame as the low cost of licensing and operational use is what gave SQL Server a wide adaptation in the first place. And that was not a bad business if you ask me!
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If you can't understand the licensing model then how can you be sure you are in compliance with it?
I've actually had two conversations with different Microsoft resellers who contradicted each other on licencing so if the resellers don't get it then how can anyone.
As with all legal documents the licences seem to be written to give the legal team a hard on rather than to communicate useful information to customers.
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David.Poole (12/17/2012)
If you can't understand the licensing model then how can you be sure you are in compliance with it?
I've actually had two conversations with different Microsoft resellers who contradicted each other on licencing so if the resellers don't get it then how can anyone.
As with all legal documents the licences seem to be written to give the legal team a hard on rather than to communicate useful information to customers.
Completely agree.
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Sorry to come to the ball late but here is another opinion.
Amazon and a number of others have identified a way of doing business. You go to the "shelves" through pages and request what you want. You put it in a shopping cart and when you think you are done you review what you got there before you order. With the potential shipping list are an estimate of all cost of the products requested. There are opportunities to select discounts or prepaid cards that might effect the price and users can check those as they need to. But when done they can buy. They can also print off the potential order and the list prices.
Could Microsoft do that in a new area in the "Microsoft Store"? Could you view a page that using some form of AI asks you and assists you in selection of the appropriate SQL Server version and associated functionality to meet your needs. And when you are where you think you should be could you print that out or make a copy somehow and sent it through the system to your rep?
I know that this sounds too simple and that it does not get to the finer points of ordering, but it would at least start to identify what you want and what you might need to do the current business and have reason able expansion. And I know that there are discounts and buying programs out there for SQL server and other like products but I would think that without too much effort MS could build something that could get it mostly right.
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Miles Neale (12/17/2012)
Could Microsoft do that in a new area in the "Microsoft Store"? Could you view a page that using some form of AI asks you and assists you in selection of the appropriate SQL Server version and associated functionality to meet your needs.
Not a bad idea. It would require some good questions to help flesh out scenarios, but I'd anticipate that things not covered could get added back to the "store" in relatively quick fashion.
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