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Posted Wednesday, October 10, 2012 12:39 PM


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Will shrinking the transaction log reduce the size of a full backup?
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Depends on what you mean by "shrinking". If you mean truncating it, to "shrink" the data in it, then yes. If you mean shrinking the file but leaving the data alone (just getting rid of some free space in it), then no.

Keep in mind that truncating the transaction log is almost always a really, really bad idea.


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Posted Wednesday, October 10, 2012 2:00 PM


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OK that's what I thought. The T-log grew due to a bad query so now it's >1% used. I was hoping I could shrink to reduce the backup size. Oh well, I'll have to get the vendor to archive some data.

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OK that's what I thought. The T-log grew due to a bad query so now it's >1% used. I was hoping I could shrink to reduce the backup size. Oh well, I'll have to get the vendor to archive some data.

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They're done weekly. I'm actually working through testing ola's scripts on it.
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No, neither shrinking the log nor explicitly truncating it will reduce database backup size. The portion of the log included in a full backup is usually just from the start of the oldest open transaction at the point the full backup starts until the end of the backup (can be more if there's replication, CDC or async mirroring)


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