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Posted Friday, August 17, 2012 12:12 AM


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Not this year, no, maybe not even next year, until they address all the security concerns. i don't see my company doing that until that concern is tightened up more.


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Posted Friday, August 17, 2012 6:12 PM
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Defining "cloud" as PaaS in this case:

I'd say we're pulling back, but not for security reasons. Rather it's that we aren't getting the service we believe we contracted for. Ask for a new VM? Wait two weeks and then find out they don't think your contact covers that, so you go after them with a bat (or a lawyer) and finally get your VM a month after you asked for it. Soooo not effective or efficient.

So we're pulling all our servers back in house where we can maintain them ourselves.

It remains to be seen how long it will take to get a VM set up under the new scenario.



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Posted Saturday, August 18, 2012 5:41 AM
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I'm in a Directors role now but was formerly a DBA for many years and still try to keep my hands in the dirt. I have to say that we are considering the cloud to help with test and dev environments. The concerns and issues around security have kept us from moving forward, especially since I work in the healthcare space, but we're now looking at tackling that concern with data masking. Masking all PHI in our test and dev environments somewhat alleviates the security and privacy concern.
We think that putting our db's in the cloud and placing most of the maintenance and administration on the service provider will allow my DBA's to spend more time focused on the more critical production transaction systems.
I don't think the cloud is going away, which also makes me think that eventually we technical folks will all be working for these service providers and very few will actually be working directly for the company’s that use the service.
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Posted Saturday, August 18, 2012 12:50 PM
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Absolutely yes, we see the "Cloud" as the most significant development since the internet and will be developing all of our applications for this platform.
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Posted Monday, August 20, 2012 5:00 AM
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The organisation I work for is moving its entire server estate to AWS, so I definitely expect to be working more with the cloud in 2013 than this year.

We got the go-ahead for this work in mid April, and expect to be 100% live in AWS in November, using a team of 5 FTE staff.

We have had a successful POC that was designed to show that everything would work and could be secured. We are now in the final stages of the build, and gearing up for the acceptance and penetration tests. As part of the move, we are standardising on Windows 2008 R2 and SQL 2012.

The main driver for this work is cost reduction. For our approx 120 servers we are looking at total AWS costs of about USD $660k per annum, a saving of about USD $1.2m per annum compared to our previous hosting solution. Our experience so far is there is a learning curve to get the most out of AWS, but the benefits of cost reduction and improved performance are achievable.

Having decided on the AWS route, we are already looking at the benefits we can get from evergreen server kit, and how we can move to the new high IOPS (SSD?) storage this year.

Things are a bit hectic at present, but next year we hope to present what we have done at SQLBITS, PASS, and other conferences.


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As anyone aware of the Matt Honan situation knows, one primary issue with "the cloud" is security.

His home computer, iPhone, and iPad were all bricked by some hackers who used simple social engineering to trick Apple into thinking they were him. That particular hole has been plugged (or at least has a band-aid over it for now), but the most certain thing in such an interconnected environment is that the next exploit simply hasn't been brought to public awareness yet.

There's always a trade-off between convenience of use and security, and "the cloud" swings heavily towards the "super duper hyper convenient" end of that spectrum.


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There's always a trade-off between convenience of use and security, and "the cloud" swings heavily towards the "super duper hyper convenient" end of that spectrum.


Yep, and it's unfortunate that this is the case.







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Posted Monday, August 20, 2012 8:24 AM
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"Cloud" sounds to me to be a great marketing word. It could mean a lot of things or services but what they have in common is transferring private or company's data on someone elses machines within the web.

Steve Wozniak recently spoke out his concerns about "the cloud" which are the lack of control over the data you have then.

For my private use I do not think I will be using "the cloud" in the foreseeable future and I never did so. Instead I recently bought a good disk station from Synology for my home data and am happy with this.

Be the services convenient or not. The inconveniences which might occur when a security leak or some other problem happens to the service provider outweights the conveniences for me.

In case there is a problem with the data on my own storage at least I know whom to blame. Its me


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