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Posted Saturday, May 19, 2012 11:30 AM


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Brad M. McGehee
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Posted Saturday, May 19, 2012 12:26 PM
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I have been through numerous Microosft certifications over the years. It seems that Microsoft has this gigantic urge to revamp things all the time. There is value in stability. "MCSE" means something to a lot of people. Now that Microsoft has apparently realized this (and thus the mistake of creating MCITP), they have now created an identical acronym "MCSE" that means something different and just adds even more confusion. This all cheapens the value of these certifications. If hiring people do not understand these certs, how can they be expected to properly evaluate someone who has them???

In addition to more renaming, the certification effort for SQL 2012 is much more significant. At some point, people will just skip them. This also adds to the deteriorization of the perceived value. A straightforward upgrade from the 2008 certification organization/structure would have made far more sense and it would have been far more realistic as well as obtainable for typical database systems people.
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Posted Monday, May 21, 2012 12:13 AM
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I agree with wrboyer123 - will it even be possilbe to write upgrade exams for 2008 certificate holders?
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Posted Monday, May 21, 2012 2:31 AM


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At least I'll be a lot closer to remembering the acronym I'll be working towards now!

Not a huge fan of the course contents, however, it's like the first year in uni which makes you study a few subjects - it helps keep a person balanced
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Posted Monday, May 21, 2012 3:07 AM
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I just don't see why Data Warehousing *must* be a core exam for MSCA. Warehousing is a specific usage for SQL Server, why not concentrate on functionality/usage that spans any type of system being built using SQL Server? Having taken the beta exam for 463 I would not say this is a good indicator of someone's skills in implementing a DW solution, far from it.
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Posted Monday, May 21, 2012 6:45 AM
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This really gets frustrating. I feel like they constantly move the finish line. I've been a SQL Server professional for over a decade, and I have a Masters degree in MIS with a database focus, but passing these tests just seems like far more trouble than they're worth. They're not creating a scenario that measures the ability to effectively work with SQL Server, they're creating a scenario that measures the ability to pass a Microsoft Certification Exam.
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Posted Monday, May 21, 2012 7:32 AM


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I've been in IT and a database professional since 1984. Over the years, my career has progressed and each new job has been much better than the previous. Each time I changed (6 employers 5 changes) jobs it was a substantial advancement in position, salary, and benefits. These advancements were all based on my experience. I have no certifications. I completed my BSIT in 2006 and I completed my MBA in 2011.

So in nearly 30 years, it's been my experience that certifications mean nothing. I'm very happy that I didn't waste any time, money, or energy in the pursuit of meaningless designations.

To answer your question, I couldn't care less about these changes in the Microsoft certification process (aka waste of time).
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Posted Monday, May 21, 2012 8:12 AM


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I've been in IT and a database professional since 1984. Over the years, my career has progressed and each new job has been much better than the previous. Each time I changed (6 employers 5 changes) jobs it was a substantial advancement in position, salary, and benefits. These advancements were all based on my experience. I have no certifications. I completed my BSIT in 2006 and I completed my MBA in 2011.

So in nearly 30 years, it's been my experience that certifications mean nothing. I'm very happy that I didn't waste any time, money, or energy in the pursuit of meaningless designations.

To answer your question, I couldn't care less about these changes in the Microsoft certification process (aka waste of time).


I agree, they are meaningless, particularly if someone can just braindump them.


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Posted Monday, May 21, 2012 9:04 AM
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Whenever I meet anyone from microsoft who's talking about certifications, I challenge them to disprove the following statement: "Certification exams are so easy every kid from high school passes them". The reason is microsoft does not release the number of certified professionals anymore. Without this piece of information, certifications are worthless. I need to know the passing rate, and how many professionals exist, by location, for each certification.
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Posted Monday, May 21, 2012 11:04 AM
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A couple of comments: (1) MS needs to stick with one acronym for these certs and that's it , i.e:. MCSE, MCDBA in the first days of certs, then comes MCITP and, now MCSA and back MCSE.. Any hiring manager and professionals can get confused with these.. (2) Implementing Data Warehouses should not be on basic SQL Server cert. It should be on its own track under BI .. anyone with logical sense would agree with that.
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