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Steve Jones - SSC Editor
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Posted Tuesday, May 08, 2012 10:29 PM
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Posted Wednesday, May 09, 2012 4:36 AM
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Yesterday I was 'handed' 2 Amazon SQL servers that was set up by someone else ( not a DBA ) , and I hope you have a very strong sa password, or ideally disabled the sa account , as I am seeing load of sa failed logins from around the world, and they started to appear 5-6 days after the server was commissioned.
Security of the data must be a major concern !
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Very good article.!!
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Adrian Sims-154382 (5/9/2012)
Yesterday I was 'handed' 2 Amazon SQL servers that was set up by someone else ( not a DBA ) , and I hope you have a very strong sa password, or ideally disabled the sa account , as I am seeing load of sa failed logins from around the world, and they started to appear 5-6 days after the server was commissioned.
Security of the data must be a major concern !
I see the same thing in many SQL Servers in DMZs if networking is not well configured. You can do some lockdown in AWS for this, and I'd recommend it.
Without a doubt security is a primary concern, and it should be. All passwords should be at least 12 characters, and preferably a few more.
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I'm using sqlcompare to deploy the database as per the article, at the moment I'm unsure of the limitations of the platform. Removing AUTHORIZATION [aspnet_Membership_FullAccess] allows it to create but seems bit odd to me.
GO
CREATE SCHEMA [aspnet_Membership_FullAccess]
AUTHORIZATION [aspnet_Membership_FullAccess]
GO
----
Msg 15151, Level 16, State 1, Line 2
Cannot find the user 'aspnet_Membership_FullAccess', because it does not exist or you do not have permission.
Msg 2759, Level 16, State 0, Line 2
CREATE SCHEMA failed due to previous errors.
Any ideas?
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you'd be better off posting this in the SQLCompare forums, but does this user exist in your instance?
SQLCompare looks at your users on the local database. If they don't exist in the new database on RDS, or you don't have permissions to assign that authorization, results in an error.
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Posted Wednesday, May 09, 2012 4:02 PM
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It's a great article Steve. Thanks. Still trying to work out advantages of cloud offerings from SQL Server (Azure) {deprecated name!} vs Native SQL Server. Amazon entering confuses the matter further! Any thoughts?
BTW I agree SQL Compare Tools are brilliant, anyone interested should just get a 14 day free trial and will surely buy if allowed to!
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RDS gives you a database service that works like the 2008 R2 Dev edition. No Windows logins or host OS access, but if you work with the features and functions inside the database it's the same. Simpler.
Amazon EC2, or other cloud/VM providers give you a virtual Windows host that you manage as you wish. They deal with power, hardware, etc., and free you up to worry about the Windows host and software (like SQL ) installed.. If you don't have a data center or easy way to host things, this is a nice option.
Azure gives you a service that is like SQL Server, but isn't the same as your local SQL Server. Some stuff works, some doesn't, and you have to work out if that matters. Much of the base works, but some stuff doesn't (like NewSequentialID). Some notes
here
,
here
, and
here
.
In general, I think if you need a database service, or a db + web server, the cloud works well. It's not much different than the hosted offerings from MaximumASP, RackSpace and other providers in many ways.
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Steve Jones - SSC Editor (5/9/2012)
RDS gives you a database service that works like the 2008 R2 Dev edition.
...
Azure gives you a service that is like SQL Server, but isn't the same as your local SQL Server. Some stuff works, some doesn't, and you have to work out if that matters. Much of the base works, but some stuff doesn't (like NewSequentialID). Some notes
here
,
here
, and
here
.
Thanks Steve. We've used SQL Azure, and changed quite a lot to do so.
So I'm wondering how Microsoft persuade your average Joe that making potentially wholesale changes to an app to put it in SQL Azure is better than just uploading the app as it is to Amazon RDS...
Tim
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Tim Walker. (5/10/2012)
Thanks Steve. We've used SQL Azure, and changed quite a lot to do so.
So I'm wondering how Microsoft persuade your average Joe that making potentially wholesale changes to an app to put it in SQL Azure is better than just uploading the app as it is to Amazon RDS...
Tim
Cost, loyalty, maybe something in Azure that isn't local in SQL Server? My suspicion is eventually we'll see features tested on Azure first, then in the box.
Corporate policy also, a contract signed by the CxO, may influence things.
It's a big world, and no one will dominate. Lots of people will choose one or the other or neither for various reasons.
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