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Steve Jones - SSC Editor
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Posted Monday, October 24, 2011 9:48 PM
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Posted Tuesday, October 25, 2011 3:28 AM
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It's a nice idea, but would involve getting access to HR data which, in my experience, HR departments tend to be rather twitchy about!
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Posted Tuesday, October 25, 2011 3:58 AM
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Twitchy-ness aside, I also say "Great Idea"! We already get some of the data related to employee turnover simply because my group is responsible for shutting down some system accesses. Since we also are responsible for setting up access for new employees, we have a "seat of the pants" feel for the ratio of terminations to new hires.
I have a great relationship with the HR department where I work, in part from having once had my cubicle in their area. Now, if I could just get off the 14-hour days caused by the loss of a team member, I might have time to look into this...
Here there be dragons...,
Steph Brown
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Posted Tuesday, October 25, 2011 6:47 AM
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Do people tell the truth in exit interviews? People may be reluctant to say what is wrong because they don't want to burn any bridges.
If that's the case, then I would hesitate using anything from the exit interviews. It could skew or hide what is really happening.
You can use statistics about the amount of churn to focus on a particular area. But, use caution. I have seen departmental management get fired because churn looked bad, but, the HR people forgot the seasonality of the department. BI systems are interesting to work on but I've seen too many people take the output as gospel and not use their own intelligence.
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Posted Tuesday, October 25, 2011 7:18 AM
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Human Resource departments are similar to IT departments in that both of them are a cost to the organization without generating revenue
How many companies can work successfully for a day or two with no HR functions? How many of those can say the same if all of their IT hardware was down? Or, if that's not apples-to-apples, how about no IT staff?
A manager at a former employer of mine took exception to IT being called an overhead department. His reply was "let's turn off the server room and see how much overhead that is".
Even as a DBA, I've done work that directly affected customers and our value to them as a supplier. I've never worked in HR, but I haven't seen that from their department.
Woah. I think I needs me some breakfast!
Rich
p.s. I love HR.
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Posted Tuesday, October 25, 2011 7:44 AM
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Lempster (10/25/2011)
It's a nice idea, but would involve getting access to HR data which, in my experience, HR departments tend to be rather twitchy about!
In the US, Sarbanes-Oxley is a true PIA. It is difficult to get access to anything that is financial or HR based. In some companies, you have to have an approved charter to be able to request the security to work on almost anything.
The days of working secondary projects for "fun" is going away, at least for the large, publicly traded companies.
Regards,
Joe
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Steve Jones - SSC Editor
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Posted Tuesday, October 25, 2011 7:52 AM
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OCTom (10/25/2011)
Do people tell the truth in exit interviews? People may be reluctant to say what is wrong because they don't want to burn any bridges.
If that's the case, then I would hesitate using anything from the exit interviews. It could skew or hide what is really happening.
Yes and no, and you'd have to take the data with a grain of salt, maybe assign some factor that discounts validity, or accounts for some mis-truths. I have heard people go both ways, sometimes brutally honest, sometimes completely false.
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Steve Jones - SSC Editor
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richj-826679 (10/25/2011)
Human Resource departments are similar to IT departments in that both of them are a cost to the organization without generating revenue
How many companies can work successfully for a day or two with no HR functions? How many of those can say the same if all of their IT hardware was down? Or, if that's not apples-to-apples, how about no IT staff?
It's still overhead. Not that it's bad, but like water, power, phone, it's overhead that doesn't directly relate to revenue.
The MBAs have given this overhead a bad name, but it's necessary and should be there.
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Steve Jones - SSC Editor
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Posted Tuesday, October 25, 2011 7:54 AM
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Joe Johnson-482549 (10/25/2011)
Lempster (10/25/2011)
It's a nice idea, but would involve getting access to HR data which, in my experience, HR departments tend to be rather twitchy about!
In the US, Sarbanes-Oxley is a true PIA. It is difficult to get access to anything that is financial or HR based. In some companies, you have to have an approved charter to be able to request the security to work on almost anything.
The days of working secondary projects for "fun" is going away, at least for the large, publicly traded companies.
Regards,
Joe
I think that's not true at all. No one is suggesting you do this without any approval or without controls. People in IT work on financial and HR systems every day. The SOX stuff means that controls are in place, audits occur, and there is some oversight, not that the work is prohibited.
If you want to tackle a project on the side, you still need to get approval and notify managers.
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Posted Tuesday, October 25, 2011 10:52 AM
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Therein lies the rub. In large corporations, you support the business, who pays for your time. When it comes to side projects, there's precious little budget, or inclination to spend same on such initiatives.
I have (what I consider to be) a ton of great ideas to improve processes and efficiency in our space. But IT is charged with doing other divisions' projects. Our projects, unless they are enterprise-level infrastructure, are on the perpetual back burner. And there's no gas there. So we can pretty much forget about being given resources to do our cool projects.
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