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Posted Wednesday, September 7, 2011 12:32 AM


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Posted Wednesday, September 7, 2011 2:47 AM
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Whilst I only read a short excerpt from the Manna story, it's interesting to see that a project I have worked on in the past scheduled which part of the business (and so which task) staff should be working in throughout their shift in 15 minute blocks, based on customer demand and trends for that branch.
It showed the manager how many staff he should need, where they should work and what shift patterns needed to be worked.

Although facial recognition was never implemented, there was also talk of cameras enabling facial recognition to track both employees and customer behaviours to further improve efficiency....

This sounds remarkably like the infancy of Manna...
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Posted Wednesday, September 7, 2011 3:50 AM
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I am right now developing a product that will make a assignments not require humans anymore. These people still posses good knowledge and can focus and be worth more in other parts of the company, but thus I can see first hand this happening at a small scale.

I do believe less and less humans will be needed for different tasks. Which IT tasks such as DB management will be left or not and when change takes place is impossible to see but it is for sure that the future will remove some parts of peoples jobs and perhaps introduce new jobs.

Once we do have decent "robots" in place the need for a cleaner will be eliminated. However, it also must be cost effective. The world is sure to change, history can tell us this. When and what will change however is harder to predict, I believe it will take a long time before that story comes true if it ever does while I believe my example of cleaners might come to place in a hundred years or so.
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Posted Wednesday, September 7, 2011 6:16 AM


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People are being asked to do more than one just job or have more than one skill. I admin Linux AND Windows related to web sites besides two (and at one point three) different databases (SQL, DB2 and Oracle). It's a great exposure to everything, but it gets tough to know it all.






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Ideally, using automation to replace workers would just require different and/or higher-level skills. The need for people to do *something* will never go away, the skills required will just change.

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If there is a task that can be automated, then it probably will be sooner or later. However, the value of a person in a role is not their ability to do predefined tasks; it's their ability to deal with the subjective.

I'll admit I haven't read the story, but it's understandable that a piece of software could organise staff levels and task priorities because optimums can be measured and quantified. What is less believable is the automation of contract negotiation; the question of "do I want to do business with this company?" can hinge on all sorts of intangible and subjective criteria which are unmeasurable even if a person can instinctively weight them up in the mix.

A DBA's or a developer's value is often not his or her encyclopaedic knowledge of their tools, but instead their understanding of how the use of that tool will affect business. That's something that can't be replaced by clever software, and perhaps also underlines the importance of techies not ignoring their business acumen.


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Posted Wednesday, September 7, 2011 8:17 AM
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Surely though if everything is being run by Manna, it will be able to use it's own metrics to decide which group of people fit best? It's not requiring human interaction to make the deal anymore.
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Posted Wednesday, September 7, 2011 8:40 AM
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majorbloodnock (9/7/2011)[hrWhat is less believable is the automation of contract negotiation; the question of "do I want to do business with this company?" can hinge on all sorts of intangible and subjective criteria which are unmeasurable even if a person can instinctively weight them up in the mix.


But what percentage of the time is the wrong decision made based on those subjective criteria?
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Posted Wednesday, September 7, 2011 8:51 AM


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majorbloodnock (9/7/2011)[hrWhat is less believable is the automation of contract negotiation; the question of "do I want to do business with this company?" can hinge on all sorts of intangible and subjective criteria which are unmeasurable even if a person can instinctively weight them up in the mix.


But what percentage of the time is the wrong decision made based on those subjective criteria?

About forty percent. Several comprehensive (and expensive) studies agree that if you cannot reduce a decision to a few simple numbers on a spreadsheet and you weigh in subjective criteria, managers get about 60 percent decisions right, no matter how many consulting bucks and effort go into that decision.

That's 10 percent better than to flip a coin.
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Posted Wednesday, September 7, 2011 8:57 AM


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Heh, I'm with you one this one Steve. We can't even automate loading a random flat file into a system.

Over a decade ago, I remember hoping that one day such tasks would be unnecessary. Wrong!


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