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Posted Friday, April 22, 2011 2:19 PM
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I'm currently a student finishing up my CS degree and making a major career change from a completely different field. What skill set would you recommend (languages, vendors, soft skills, type of experience) for landing my first sql developer/junior dba/sql programmer position? Any and all advice is appreciated. Thank you!
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Posted Friday, April 22, 2011 2:24 PM


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With no IT experience, it's not likely you'll be able to land a DBA job. Developer, maybe.
http://www.brentozar.com/becoming-a-dba/how-to-get-a-junior-dba-job/



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Posted Friday, April 22, 2011 5:09 PM


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If you have the opportunity to take on some community projects or an internship - do it. It could help build up some experience.



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Posted Monday, April 25, 2011 5:14 AM


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I only know of one person who went straight from college to a full-time DBA and he spent about 18 months as an unpaid intern first. Since you have zero experience, the best place to start is at the help-desk at a large organization. Other than that... look around, talk to people, network like mad. You might find someone willing to take a chance.

Get a copy of Tom LaRock's book DBA Survivor. It might help some.


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GilaMonster (4/22/2011)
With no IT experience, it's not likely you'll be able to land a DBA job. Developer, maybe.


Wow Gail! Not sure whether, as a developer, I should feel insulted by that statement.
You mean I could never be a DBA

Only kidding really



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With no IT experience, it's not likely you'll be able to land a DBA job. Developer, maybe.


Wow Gail! Not sure whether, as a developer, I should feel insulted by that statement.
You mean I could never be a DBA

Only kidding really


In her world, DBA means last line of defense. You can't put someone there with no experience. If you are willing to start as dev, then the DBA can spot your problem areas and help you improve there. So her statement makes complete sense.


And yes you should be insulted .
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Ninja's_RGR'us (4/25/2011)[hrAnd yes you should be insulted .


Bummer. Now I'll have to go and sit on the naughty chair



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Posted Monday, April 25, 2011 6:03 AM


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Oh! And BTW I have seen some DBAs I would not like as my last line of defence


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David Burrows (4/25/2011)
Oh! And BTW I have seen some DBAs I would not like as my last line of defence



I've seen 300+ employees companies with a network admin I wouldn't trust my calculator to for security nor data integrity!

Good thing I have many clients... they can't guess who I'm talking about.
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With no IT experience, it's not likely you'll be able to land a DBA job. Developer, maybe.


Wow Gail! Not sure whether, as a developer, I should feel insulted by that statement.
You mean I could never be a DBA

Only kidding really


In her world, DBA means last line of defense. You can't put someone there with no experience. If you are willing to start as dev, then the DBA can spot your problem areas and help you improve there. So her statement makes complete sense.


And yes you should be insulted .


In that case I insulted myself. I am a developer.

Seriously, few companies are going to give the keys to the data that runs their business, the responsibility for securing and guarding that data, for ensuring the reliability and integrity of data that literally runs the business to someone straight out of school.
Those that do are companies that you probably want to stay away from.

A developer makes a mistake, someone files a bug report (assuming that it's not caught in testing). A DBA makes a mistake, it could result in major data loss, major downtime, major financial impact, even closing of the business.



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