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The Job Posting - Do I really have to be the SQL God? Expand / Collapse
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Posted Monday, April 18, 2011 8:20 PM


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alen teplitsky (4/18/2011)
a lot of the listings are fake and are just head hunters looking for resumes for their database


Ah, now there's something I've also noticed: the same job description popping up week after week, month after month. A position seemingly never to get filled. That's a red flag in it's own right.

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Posted Monday, April 18, 2011 9:24 PM
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alen teplitsky (4/18/2011)
a lot of the listings are fake and are just head hunters looking for resumes for their database


Ah, now there's something I've also noticed: the same job description popping up week after week, month after month. A position seemingly never to get filled. That's a red flag in it's own right.

Steve.


Job boards like Dice and Monster have devolved into resume harvesting/aggregation services. So, I don't even bother with job boards anymore. I leverage my network - mainly via LinkedIn. Let them find you. Make them earn their keep.



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Posted Thursday, April 21, 2011 11:06 AM
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Great article Craig! I've been put off by job postings that have the SQL God requirement in the past. I'll never look at job postings in the same light again.

How about the jobs that list a bunch of SQL Server skills and then add .Net? What the heck to they mean by that?
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Posted Thursday, April 21, 2011 11:14 AM


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tfifield (4/21/2011)
Great article Craig! I've been put off by job postings that have the SQL God requirement in the past. I'll never look at job postings in the same light again.

How about the jobs that list a bunch of SQL Server skills and then add .Net? What the heck to they mean by that?
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I had one just like that this week. They clearly need a senior for the role and they know it. All admin stuff all the way, very clear and well presented, then at the end they add 3 years .net web dev .

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Posted Thursday, April 21, 2011 12:49 PM


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tfifield (4/21/2011)
Great article Craig! I've been put off by job postings that have the SQL God requirement in the past. I'll never look at job postings in the same light again.

How about the jobs that list a bunch of SQL Server skills and then add .Net? What the heck to they mean by that?
Todd Fifield


One of two things usually. First is the good reasoning: They want someone who's at least done SOME programming so they can talk to the coders intelligently, even if they can't do their job. The other is they want an actual coder who can do all these SQL tasks as well, because they don't realize the workload or expertise is different.

Sadly, the latter of those is the more common. It really only works in very tiny shops that don't have a lot of work in general, or they need the rare change to the interface/software but mostly they need the data maintained.



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tfifield (4/21/2011)
Great article Craig! I've been put off by job postings that have the SQL God requirement in the past. I'll never look at job postings in the same light again.

How about the jobs that list a bunch of SQL Server skills and then add .Net? What the heck to they mean by that?
Todd Fifield


I had one just like that this week. They clearly need a senior for the role and they know it. All admin stuff all the way, very clear and well presented, then at the end they add 3 years .net web dev .

ADMIN <> web DEV


I hate those. "We need x, but we want the kitchen sink." I call them shotgun postings (among other, less savory names). You can tell they dang well need an *X* person. They still slam everything on the wall hoping to find someone it'll all stick to for 1/2 the price of the guy who ONLY does what they really needed in the first place.



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Sometimes in large organizations - particularly government - you will see jobs advertised with very specific skills and experience. I've never been able to prove this, but I am almost certain these jobs are written for either 1) the person already in the job who has to re-apply for whatever reason or 2) the person who already works, wants the job and is required to apply the job along with everyone else. Basically, the manager writes the job spec so that nobody else other than the person they want in the job is qualified. I'm not saying it's good or bad, just that I'm certain it happens.


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Posted Thursday, April 21, 2011 10:13 PM
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Yep, seen that in CA State positions often.
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James Stover (4/21/2011)
Sometimes in large organizations - particularly government - you will see jobs advertised with very specific skills and experience. I've never been able to prove this, but I am almost certain these jobs are written for either 1) the person already in the job who has to re-apply for whatever reason or 2) the person who already works, wants the job and is required to apply the job along with everyone else. Basically, the manager writes the job spec so that nobody else other than the person they want in the job is qualified. I'm not saying it's good or bad, just that I'm certain it happens.


A perfect example of what I've nicknamed a "Job for Bob" scenario. I personally usually see these in Visa Renewal situations, but the government doing it too doesn't surprise me.



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Sometimes in large organizations - particularly government - you will see jobs advertised with very specific skills and experience. I've never been able to prove this, but I am almost certain these jobs are written for either 1) the person already in the job who has to re-apply for whatever reason or 2) the person who already works, wants the job and is required to apply the job along with everyone else. Basically, the manager writes the job spec so that nobody else other than the person they want in the job is qualified. I'm not saying it's good or bad, just that I'm certain it happens.


A perfect example of what I've nicknamed a "Job for Bob" scenario. I personally usually see these in Visa Renewal situations, but the government doing it too doesn't surprise me.


"Job for Bob". I like it!



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