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Posted Thursday, February 24, 2011 10:13 AM


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I have always felt that I need to do something productive. What drives me is that I derive pleasure from what I do. I also get paid for it which is a part of drive and motivation. And, it's not something I derive pleasure from because I'm good at it. I'm good at plumbing but derive no pleasure from doing it.

I can't imagine being retired and pursuing only hobby interests. My ultimate "retirement" will be doing essentially what I've been doing but only 2-3 days per week instead of full time.
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I have always felt that I need to do something productive. What drives me is that I derive pleasure from what I do. I also get paid for it which is a part of drive and motivation. And, it's not something I derive pleasure from because I'm good at it. I'm good at plumbing but derive no pleasure from doing it.

I can't imagine being retired and pursuing only hobby interests. My ultimate "retirement" will be doing essentially what I've been doing but only 2-3 days per week instead of full time.


That's what I think I'll be doing. Can't imagine not having some sort of job to do.







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98 percent of job satisfaction and the the drive to do better at your job is directly linked to who you work for. No one can tell me that working for a jerk does not drastically affect those two things. On the other hand, working for a great boss, I have seen people excel at what they do, and also people who take advantage of that as well.

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I can't imagine being retired and pursuing only hobby interests. My ultimate "retirement" will be doing essentially what I've been doing but only 2-3 days per week instead of full time.


I read an interesting book recently, the main point of which was 'avoid retirement and stay alive'. In other words, continue to work at something which has meaning for you for at least a few days a week. That is my intention, particularly as I have clear memories of my father retiring from work, retiring from life and dying within quite a short time.

Of course if our promised pensions don't materialise then we may all have to continue working longer than we've been conditioned to expect. It will be better for our mental health if we also want to.
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I can't imagine being retired and pursuing only hobby interests. My ultimate "retirement" will be doing essentially what I've been doing but only 2-3 days per week instead of full time.


I read an interesting book recently, the main point of which was 'avoid retirement and stay alive'. In other words, continue to work at something which has meaning for you for at least a few days a week. That is my intention, particularly as I have clear memories of my father retiring from work, retiring from life and dying within quite a short time.

Of course if our promised pensions don't materialise then we may all have to continue working longer than we've been conditioned to expect. It will be better for our mental health if we also want to.


If things keep going the way they are going, none of us will have to worry about retiring. we won't be able too.


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My first impulse when i hear people say they will continue working and never retire (like my dad) is to think "wow, what an incredible lack of imagination"

But the reality is that people are not all motivated by the same things. Dan Pink falls into the trap of assuming that they do - mastery, control and purpose.

Human nature is more subtle than that, people have a wide array of motivations may of which have little or nothing to do with work, some of which are in opposition to work.

I would urge members of this forum to read up a bit more on the more recent psychology research on motivation, in particular Dr Steven Reiss.

Some of the things that motivate people that relate directly to work are:
a desire for order
a desire to win
a desire for status
a desire to learn and experience more
a desire to control

and people vary in how much these things are important to them. Some people just arent motivated to learn more, or to achieve greater status.

other desires can be directly opposed to most work situations:

desire for physical activity
desire for food
desire for for sex
desire for peace and quiet
desire for family

everyone has these desires, but in different proportions. Frequently we have strong desires that are in conflict, for example many people experience a conflict between their desire for family, spending time with family, nurturing family relationships and so on, and a desire to achieve in their chosen work. These conflicts are staples of art and literature but sadly lacking in Dan Pink's little effort.
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