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Getting Up To Speed on SQL Server Denali Expand / Collapse
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Posted Monday, February 21, 2011 3:36 PM


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To me, being able to intelligently anticipate and answer questions about "the next version of the primary tool of my trade" is part of what I'm being paid for. If my CIO ever asks, "Would there be security improvements if we upgrade to the newest version?", I want to be able to answer that, and not have to say, "Well, I haven't bothered to look into that because our company is too cheap to ever upgrade".


Valid point if security was the primary concern, but it's not the only reason to upgrade. I keep an eye on the latest released and real versions for features of value and merit. Eventually I will either support them or be programming for them. The industry I work in is very conservative and concerned with ROI, so filling Redmonds coffers every two years by upgrading to every single release isn't a priority. This has paid off by skipping duds such as Windows Vista, waiting for various SP1 and SP2, dodging late bugs, etc... Having been in this business since the DOS days, it pays to let the others take the arrows and glean information from their experiences when the overall cost for licenses/training is high. Not even the developer copies in MSDN tempt me much anymore. Also in a smaller shop/company, the cost of failure is higher and time is dearer.


The security question was just a sample. I plan on knowing the salient points well enough to not be shellshocked by questions about it. That's all.

I totally agree that upgrading every time Microsoft, or any other software vendor, releases a new featureset would be too much. But I hold that it's my responsibility to be able to properly inform management of the advantages and drawbacks to any given upgrade of the tools I work with, regardless of whether I ever plan to use them or not.

For example, outside of MS upgrades, I know details about a variety of data modeling tools. I've never used any of them, but knowing some of the advantages and costs to them allows me to answer reasonable questions about general data on the subject. That way, if some vendor gets a manager's ear and promises the Sun, Moon, and stars to them, all for a "very reasonable price", I'm reasonably prepared.

I'm a "knowledge worker", so I keep up on the knowledge that pertains to my work. Even if it's not practical, it's essentially what I'm getting paid for. 'Cuz it sure ain't my looks or singing voice!


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Posted Tuesday, February 22, 2011 2:11 PM
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I've done a little reading, both of blogs and BOL on Denali, and can see there are some cool things coming, but I will probably wait until at least CTP2 before I start playing with it myself. We just upgraded our main SQL Servers to 2008 R2, so it will probably be a while before we upgrade to Denali/2011, but you never know.
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Posted Wednesday, February 23, 2011 7:36 AM
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I'm a "knowledge worker", so I keep up on the knowledge that pertains to my work. Even if it's not practical, it's essentially what I'm getting paid for.


I'm the same here. There's a broad number of areas of knowledge that I keep up with that are in some cases only remotely related to my actual roles at work.
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Posted Wednesday, February 23, 2011 7:51 AM
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There are some features that im looking forward to testing, especially the Lineage and Object Dependancy part of SSMS.

Of the New T-SQL commands THROW and the new addtions to the EXECUTE command look to be of interest, as im not sure I will ever use SEQUENCE as I cant figure out a use for it at the moment.

The Data Quality tool that MS are introducing that looks as though it may have promise, I just hope its a lot more friendly than the MDS offering in R2.

Then theres the change to the BI stack with the introduction of BiSM, I'm still not sure what its puropse is except to try and start unifying the BI front end under a single UDM.


PS : Has anyone heard when CTP2 is due for release as I've seen posts referencing it without a link to the download site.


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Posted Sunday, February 27, 2011 2:03 AM
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There are some cool stuff's are in "Denali", still refering the BOL & lots of new features in BI tools.
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Posted Monday, February 28, 2011 12:58 PM


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Have only glanced at the product to date. I downloaded it and was going to do some testing and blogging in my spare time - but it hasn't happened yet.



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