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Andy Leonard
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Posted Sunday, February 06, 2011 8:38 AM
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I maintain the best tools were once toys.
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I just bought an iPad. Right now it's firmly in the category of toy. I do expect that is will become a useful tool, especially for writing.
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This reminds me of the saying "The difference between men and boys is the price of their toys."
I totally agree.
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Alan Vogan (2/4/2011)
....If it's fun, does it necessarily make it a toy?...
To my mind, no. I think it's just emphasis. If you're using the surfboard for exercise and fun is a spin-off benefit, it's a tool. If you're using it for fun and the health aspects are a spin-off benefit, it's a toy.
IMHO, of course...
TGIF!
Seconded.
So you're saying it is intent that defines them? It makes it very subjective. One man's toy is another man's tool, is another man's weapon?
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Alan Vogan (2/4/2011)
....If it's fun, does it necessarily make it a toy?...
To my mind, no. I think it's just emphasis. If you're using the surfboard for exercise and fun is a spin-off benefit, it's a tool. If you're using it for fun and the health aspects are a spin-off benefit, it's a toy.
IMHO, of course...
TGIF!
Seconded.
So you're saying it is intent that defines them? It makes it very subjective. One man's toy is another man's tool, is another man's weapon?
Yes, absolutely.
I know we can classify (for instance) a Power Rangers doll as a toy since we expect most children will want to play with it. However, given to me, I'd reclassify it as "junk" because I will neither want it, nor like it, nor use it. Alternatively, a Harley Davidson is an excellent tool for state-wide travel given the distances involved, often in a straight line. However, in the far more congested UK it becomes far less practical, so would probably have to be considered a "big boy's toy" first.
Perhaps it would be simpler to look closer at the definitions. To my mind, any artificial aid to achieving an end is a tool. I see toys as simply a subset of tools where the end in sight is primarily enjoyment. For me, all toys are tools, but not all tools are toys.
I'll agree about the definition of "weapon" being somewhat subjective, too, sadly.
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