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Steve Jones - SSC Editor
Steve Jones - SSC Editor
Posted Monday, January 10, 2011 8:11 PM
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phegedusich
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Posted Tuesday, January 11, 2011 5:56 AM
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Thanks for the informative article, Steve, but the inner English major in me couldn't resist.
"Cassandra is not interchangeable with MongoDB, and Voldemort is different than the other two."
No, it's not. It's different
from
the other two. This increasingly common gaffe also appears in the first linked article in today's newsletter.
OK, English major off, and thanks again.
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Steve Jones - SSC Editor
Steve Jones - SSC Editor
Posted Tuesday, January 11, 2011 8:41 AM
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Doh!, can't believe I didn't catch that. Fixed.
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Solomon Rutzky
Solomon Rutzky
Posted Tuesday, January 11, 2011 10:20 AM
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I definitely agree that there are very valid occasions to use a NoSQL option as a solution and to rule them out entirely is just as silly as wanting to use them only because Google does.
At the same time, these are pretty funny:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2F-DItXtZs
= Mongo DB Is Web Scale
http://howfuckedismydatabase.com/nosql/
= Querying NoSQL
SQL# -
http://www.SQLsharp.com/
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kevin77
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Posted Tuesday, January 11, 2011 10:31 AM
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I attended a user group meeting in which we had two speakers talk about and show some examples of both Cassandra and MongoDB. Let me tell you I was not impressed! I wouldn't touch that stuff with a 100 foot pole. The documentation is almost non-existent, it's hard to keep up with the revision changes and what seemingly basic features are in what version, and I just don't see the cost benefit in trying to use it.
I asked one of the speakers what the largest database and system he was using Cassandra for and he said that he hadn't even used it in a Production environment yet and that in the development environment it was just running a very small database (a few hundred megabytes) on a single server.
Oh, so add one more item to my list of complaints above. If you run into some problems, who's going to help you? Chances are, there won't be anyone else who has done what you're trying to do.
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mtillman-921105
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Posted Tuesday, January 11, 2011 10:32 AM
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The CAP was interesting, so all a good RDMS would have to do is make it partition tolerant and the NOSQL would become completely superfluous? 'I suppose that's easier said than done of course.
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Posted Tuesday, January 11, 2011 11:51 AM
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Isn't Voldemort evil? J.K. Rowling must be freelancing...and the MulletDB is hilarious!
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SQLRNNR
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Posted Thursday, January 13, 2011 8:49 AM
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I found the CAP diagram interesting and insightful for this NOSQL dilemma. Though I found it interesting that Oracle and MS were left off that list.
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Steve Jones - SSC Editor
Steve Jones - SSC Editor
Posted Thursday, January 13, 2011 10:49 AM
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The author is an open source person, so I'm not surprised that Oracle/SQL Server aren't on there. I assume they qualify as RDBMSes, just like MySQL
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