Enable Broker Service

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    Mayank Parmar
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  • Nice question on something most people probably don't know anything about. Thanks!

  • Nice question, thanks.

    Here is also a discussion on this topic: http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/sqlservicebroker/thread/eca47504-9a8c-4c0f-a4a4-3a56fb5a012b

  • Another Good question, one which I needed to read up about as we do not use the Service Broker where I work.

  • Good question with nice/tricky options.

    I was thinking for following options are the candidates:

    ALTER DATABASE db2 SET DISABLE_BROKER ; ALTER DATABASE db2 SET ENABLE_BROKER;

    ALTER DATABASE db2 SET NEW_BROKER

    But after reading some links got the right answer - NEW_BROKER.

    Thanks

  • Great question!

    The Enable broker and new broker were obvious candidates, but it took some Books On line reading to get to NEW_BROKER.

    Got to learn something new on Service Broker today. Thank-you!

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  • I'm sorry, but I do not believe that the question was phrased very well. To 'enable' Service Broker for the database, you use the ENABLE_BROKER option, as stated in the msdn article you posted

    ENABLE_BROKER

    Specifies that Service Broker is enabled for the specified database. Message delivery is started, and the is_broker_enabled flag is set to true in the sys.databases catalog view. The database retains the existing Service Broker identifier.

    To reset/assign a new Service Broker Id for a restored database, you would use the NEW_BROKER option.

    NEW_BROKER

    Specifies that the database should receive a new broker identifier. Because the database is considered to be a new service broker, all existing conversations in the database are immediately removed without producing end dialog messages. Any route that references the old Service Broker identifier must be re-created with the new identifier.

    Phil

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  • <nitpick mode="on" />

    I would issue a simple ALTER DATABASE db2 SET ENABLE_BROKER, since noone said that the broker service had already been enabled in db1

    <nitpick mode="off" />

    Ok, common sense told me that I should assume the service had already been enabled in db1 as well, so I chose the right answer.

    Best Regards,

    Chris Büttner

  • Yes Phil,

    Normally to enable the Broker Service, you need to simply use : "ENABLE_BROKER"

    But when you restore the back up of database db1 to database db2, and after that if you want to enable broker service on database db2, then what to do? - That was my question.

    Regards,

    Mayank

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    Mayank Parmar
    Software Engineer

    Clarion Technologies
    SEI CMMI Level 3 Company

    8th Floor, 803, GNFC info Tower,
    SG Highway, Ahmedabad - 380 054,
    Gujarat, India.
    www.clariontechnologies.co.in

    Email: mayank.parmar@clariontechnologies.co.in
    MSN : mayank.parmar@clariontechnologies.co.in
    Mobile: +91 9727748789
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  • Hi Christian

    You are right, I should mention that : "Service had already been enabled in db1"

    Regards,

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    Mayank Parmar
    Software Engineer

    Clarion Technologies
    SEI CMMI Level 3 Company

    8th Floor, 803, GNFC info Tower,
    SG Highway, Ahmedabad - 380 054,
    Gujarat, India.
    www.clariontechnologies.co.in

    Email: mayank.parmar@clariontechnologies.co.in
    MSN : mayank.parmar@clariontechnologies.co.in
    Mobile: +91 9727748789
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  • I agree with Christian, the question should have stated whether service broker was enabled or not in db1.

  • Yeah good question. Knew the answer wasn't "enable" so I took a choice between "create" and "new" since I couldn't remember the syntax. I picked wrong 🙁

  • To create a new identifier (or as I view it, reset service broker) for a restored database, yes, I would use the NEW_BROKER. However the question could have been phrased a little better; for example, there was no mention that Service Broker was enabled previously; and although the assumption could be made, you specifically asked how would you 'enable' Service Broker.

    Phil

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  • Thanks for the question. I missed a point, but learned something new.

    The reason I missed a point is because, when doing some research, I found this text:

    "If you attach a database with the same service broker identifier as an existing database, SQL Server deactivates Service Broker message delivery in the database being attached."

    (This is from http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms166057%28SQL.90%29.aspx).

    The quote specifically mentions attaching, but since the entire page is about attach and restore, I assumed that the restore behaviour would be identical. Obviously not.


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