InstantForum.NET v2.9.0SQLServerCentralhttp://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/notifications@sqlservercentral.comSun, 19 May 2013 19:21:54 GMT20http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic980650-263-1.aspxGot to love Dilbert!!http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2010-09-15/Mon, 20 Sep 2010 09:53:28 GMTtim.shorthttp://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic980650-263-1.aspx[quote][b]niall.baird (9/6/2010)[/b][hr]Without trying to derail the editorial, I really did think my wife and I were pretty much alone in the non-facebook (etc) world. Family and friends are always telling us that we "need" to get onto Facebook, but I really don't see the point. After spending 8-10 hours per day on the computer, coding my little heart out, I just don't want to spend the extra time updating everyone on what I had for lunch and what time I went to the toilet!!!! :-)Seriously, facebookers, your lives are not that interesting.:rolleyes:[/quote]I don't see a lot of that on FB. Most of my friends post pictures, or comments, like what you'd hear if you passed someone for 10sec on the street or in the hall. I think it's a great way to keep up with other people in a casual way, see what's happening in their lives.Surprisingly, it's a great way to communicate. No lost emails, or dead addresses. A very interesting abstraction layer.Wed, 08 Sep 2010 07:40:23 GMTSteve Jones - SSC Editorhttp://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic980650-263-1.aspx[quote][b]WayneS (9/6/2010)[/b][hr]That's not why I don't get on those sites. I'm one of those folks that are absolutely paranoid about protecting my personal identity... and all of those social networking sites are not exactly on the up-and-up in protecting my identity, so I don't go to them.[/quote]You don't have to post much of anything up there. Your email isn't disclosed and you can limit your privacy pretty well. I don't use my real birthday, address, or other personal information up there.Wed, 08 Sep 2010 07:38:58 GMTSteve Jones - SSC Editorhttp://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic980650-263-1.aspx[quote][b]suriqx (9/8/2010)[/b][hr][quote][b]SQLBill (9/7/2010)[/b][hr]BTW-Privacy is just about gone. The latest loss of privacy is with pictures. New cameras (even those on smart phones) are starting to include GeoTagging. What is that you may ask...it is tagging each photo with the geo coordinates of where the picture was taken. Cool way to remember where you took a picture. However, when someone else sees that photo, they can access the coordinates also. So what? Well, what if you post a picture of your cool new car in front of your house. Then a few days later you post you are going on a week's vacation. Someone can go to that photo and get the coordinates for your house and they know you are away. Likewise, what if you have a stalker? Don't think it can happen? Luckily for Adam of Mythbusters, it turned out good for him.http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/12/technology/personaltech/12basics.htmlPoint is, we are steadily losing our privacy and tweeting, blogging, etc is just one more way that we are becoming more of an open society - in other words, in a few years everyone will know immediately what everyone else is doing.-SQLBill[/quote]The [url=http://icanstalku.com/how.php]geotagging can be turned off[/url], and it is also possible to [url=http://www.digitalconfidence.com/downloads.html]remove photo metadata[/url] to get rid of the geotags.[/quote]Heh... "I Love My LandLine". Thanks for the excellent links and welcome aboard.Wed, 08 Sep 2010 05:14:32 GMTJeff Modenhttp://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic980650-263-1.aspx[quote][b]SQLBill (9/7/2010)[/b][hr]BTW-Privacy is just about gone. The latest loss of privacy is with pictures. New cameras (even those on smart phones) are starting to include GeoTagging. What is that you may ask...it is tagging each photo with the geo coordinates of where the picture was taken. Cool way to remember where you took a picture. However, when someone else sees that photo, they can access the coordinates also. So what? Well, what if you post a picture of your cool new car in front of your house. Then a few days later you post you are going on a week's vacation. Someone can go to that photo and get the coordinates for your house and they know you are away. Likewise, what if you have a stalker? Don't think it can happen? Luckily for Adam of Mythbusters, it turned out good for him.http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/12/technology/personaltech/12basics.htmlPoint is, we are steadily losing our privacy and tweeting, blogging, etc is just one more way that we are becoming more of an open society - in other words, in a few years everyone will know immediately what everyone else is doing.-SQLBill[/quote]The [url=http://icanstalku.com/how.php]geotagging can be turned off[/url], and it is also possible to [url=http://www.digitalconfidence.com/downloads.html]remove photo metadata[/url] to get rid of the geotags.Wed, 08 Sep 2010 03:45:50 GMTsuriqxhttp://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic980650-263-1.aspxBTW-Privacy is just about gone. The latest loss of privacy is with pictures. New cameras (even those on smart phones) are starting to include GeoTagging. What is that you may ask...it is tagging each photo with the geo coordinates of where the picture was taken. Cool way to remember where you took a picture. However, when someone else sees that photo, they can access the coordinates also. So what? Well, what if you post a picture of your cool new car in front of your house. Then a few days later you post you are going on a week's vacation. Someone can go to that photo and get the coordinates for your house and they know you are away. Likewise, what if you have a stalker? Don't think it can happen? Luckily for Adam of Mythbusters, it turned out good for him.http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/12/technology/personaltech/12basics.htmlPoint is, we are steadily losing our privacy and tweeting, blogging, etc is just one more way that we are becoming more of an open society - in other words, in a few years everyone will know immediately what everyone else is doing.-SQLBillTue, 07 Sep 2010 09:47:56 GMTSQLBillhttp://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic980650-263-1.aspxI have two daughters in their 20s and my neighbor has two kids in their late teens. The issue is that today's youth don't fully understand privacy. With all of the social media out there and smart phones putting contacts at their 'fingertips', they are sharing everything immediately and all the time. Just look at Facebook - you can see people posting what they are doing from the moment they wake up until they go to sleep - 'just brushed my teeth, got rid of that dragon breath LOL'This is the new 'open source' war. Back in the beginning, programmers felt that all software should be free and available to anyone who wanted it. They fought anyone who felt that software should be copyrighted and purchased. Today's youth are the same way, information should be free and available to any one at all times and it doesn't matter what that information is. There are no secrets with social media.-SQLBillTue, 07 Sep 2010 09:38:49 GMTSQLBillhttp://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic980650-263-1.aspx[quote][b]WayneS (9/6/2010)[/b][hr]That's not why I don't get on those sites. I'm one of those folks that are absolutely paranoid about protecting my personal identity... and all of those social networking sites are not exactly on the up-and-up in protecting my identity, so I don't go to them.[/quote]The sites themselves aren't the problem, it's how much the user decides to put out there for consumption. It's not hard to put in dummy data for profile and still make sure of the site/app.Tue, 07 Sep 2010 09:22:33 GMTSqlchickenhttp://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic980650-263-1.aspxSame rule of thumb applies but the stakes are much higher. Be careful who you are speaking to; the tools for spreading gossip can be much more devestating these days.Tue, 07 Sep 2010 09:12:00 GMTtimjhttp://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic980650-263-1.aspxIt's really just the old game with somewhat different stakes.You don't say publicly or to unknown individuals, any thing you wish to remain quiet. Politicians for years have used 'off the record' to reporters, sometimes this was respected, sometimes not. It's a matter of thinking before you speak.Tue, 07 Sep 2010 07:21:45 GMTjay-hhttp://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic980650-263-1.aspxGood point:cool:Mon, 06 Sep 2010 20:45:59 GMTniall.bairdhttp://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic980650-263-1.aspxThat's not why I don't get on those sites. I'm one of those folks that are absolutely paranoid about protecting my personal identity... and all of those social networking sites are not exactly on the up-and-up in protecting my identity, so I don't go to them.Mon, 06 Sep 2010 20:37:31 GMTWayneShttp://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic980650-263-1.aspxWithout trying to derail the editorial, I really did think my wife and I were pretty much alone in the non-facebook (etc) world. Family and friends are always telling us that we "need" to get onto Facebook, but I really don't see the point. After spending 8-10 hours per day on the computer, coding my little heart out, I just don't want to spend the extra time updating everyone on what I had for lunch and what time I went to the toilet!!!! :-)Seriously, facebookers, your lives are not that interesting.:rolleyes:Mon, 06 Sep 2010 15:44:25 GMTniall.bairdhttp://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic980650-263-1.aspx[quote][b]niall.baird (9/5/2010)[/b][hr]Being possibly the only person in the universe that doesn't have a twitter account, a facebook page, a myspace page or anything else like that (other than a linkedin page)[/quote]You are definitely not alone ...Mon, 06 Sep 2010 13:44:37 GMTWayneShttp://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic980650-263-1.aspx[quote][b]niall.baird (9/5/2010)[/b][hr]Being possibly the only person in the universe that doesn't have a twitter account, a facebook page, a myspace page or anything else like that (other than a linkedin page), I had actually not thought about this at all.[/quote]Nah... you're not alone there although I'm always conscious of those things and the impact they can have.Mon, 06 Sep 2010 10:55:29 GMTJeff Modenhttp://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic980650-263-1.aspxThere's a Chinese proverb I've always liked for my own self-censorship: "You want no one to know it?... Then don't do it."Mon, 06 Sep 2010 07:02:38 GMTpeterzekehttp://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic980650-263-1.aspxIt all depends on who you trust. Some people I've worked with I wouldn't trust an inch, whereas others are people that I can really trust .Mon, 06 Sep 2010 02:09:27 GMTpaul s-306273http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic980650-263-1.aspxI'm another one who doesn't do twittering, facebooking, myspace or being linkedin etc. so you're not alone Niall.The problem hasn't changed though, there has always been the one rule - don't tell something that you wish to remain confidential. It just takes less time for someone to pass it on to others.Mon, 06 Sep 2010 02:07:11 GMTP Joneshttp://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic980650-263-1.aspxGreat topic Brad! Funny because there are often times in the office where Scott (Gleason) will say something then immediately turns to me and says "don't tweet that", as he knows how active I am in the social media space. Not saying that I go around tweeting/blogging everything I hear or discuss with folks but it's interesting that it's becoming a more prevalent issue. Hopefully more folks will realize the power of social media (e.g. the #sqlhelp tag on Twitter) and how beneficial it can be rather than focusing on the negative side.Sun, 05 Sep 2010 17:39:23 GMTSqlchickenhttp://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic980650-263-1.aspxBeing possibly the only person in the universe that doesn't have a twitter account, a facebook page, a myspace page or anything else like that (other than a linkedin page), I had actually not thought about this at all. Its a bit of a scary thought to realise that you could be outside the office having a coffee (and a smoke for those who still do) with a workmate, and before you get back to the office, a short account of that conversation could be twitting its way around the universe!Sun, 05 Sep 2010 16:18:59 GMTniall.bairdhttp://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic980650-263-1.aspxI think that Andy has it right, you ought to keep things private conversations private unless you ask permission. I have emailed a lot of people about things before I've written them in editorials.However I think that if you're talking in public, in a group, you are essentially sharing information there. If 7 of us are in a hallway and others walk by and you say things, those are not things I would consider to be held in confidence. Just as I'd differentiate an email conversation between a few people as being private and posting on a forum like this as public.Sun, 05 Sep 2010 12:55:19 GMTSteve Jones - SSC Editorhttp://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic980650-263-1.aspxMy thought is, even if you say "please don't" that doesn't mean the person you are speaking to will act accordingly. However, regardless of what media outlet is available, people still have to remember the maxim, don't believe everything you hear/read. Just because someone tweets about how you told them you think a certain manager is lazy, it's hearsay, so I don't see how it is at all possible that you could lose your job over it. I would think the tweeter would be more at risk. In this hypothetical scenario, I would simply deny ever having said anything of the sort to that person, putting that person on the spot, not me. So my advice to anyone potentially divulging something someone told you, unless you have proof, you're the one at risk of losing your reputation/job.Sun, 05 Sep 2010 09:20:01 GMTvgrimes-1120058http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic980650-263-1.aspxBe careful and act like adults.Sat, 04 Sep 2010 20:37:14 GMTSQLRNNRhttp://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic980650-263-1.aspx[quote][font="Arial Black"]From the article: [/font][hr]So what should we do now that we live in the new world of social media?[/quote]My answer would be... act like adults. ;-)Sat, 04 Sep 2010 19:27:00 GMTJeff Modenhttp://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic980650-263-1.aspxBrad, I don't know if I've been perfect about this, but my view is that conversations are private unless you ask permission to share. That said, there are times when I think its ok to say "I had lunch with a friend who mentioned...some none personal thing". Even in cases where there will be public minutes (PASS Board meetings for example) it's wise to exercise caution about direct quotes.I do say "please don't blog this" when I talk about some topics, because while I'm often willing to be candid about a topic person to person, if that message is to be shared I would want to manage it and not have someone else write it. There's always a chance someone will ignore this and hurt me, but I think taking that chance is preferable to filtering every sentence as if it was being recorded for playback.Great topic.Sat, 04 Sep 2010 19:07:21 GMTAndy Warrenhttp://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic980650-263-1.aspxComments posted to this topic are about the item [B]<A HREF="/articles/Editorial/71142/">Please don’t Tweet this, but…</A>[/B]Sat, 04 Sep 2010 10:56:48 GMTbradmcgehee@hotmail.com