InstantForum.NET v2.9.0SQLServerCentralhttp://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/notifications@sqlservercentral.comWed, 22 May 2013 10:11:20 GMT20http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic466359-263-1.aspx[quote][b]TravisDBA (12/27/2012)[/b][hr]Analogies on how to get animals to take pills is good stuff to know, I guess, but is SQL Server material getting a little hard to come by nowadays? :-D[/quote]At least we did not get the "cleaning out the stall every other day" story. That might be a little much. :-)M.Thu, 27 Dec 2012 10:34:23 GMTMiles Nealehttp://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic466359-263-1.aspxAnalogies on how to get animals to take pills is good stuff to know, I guess, but is SQL Server material getting a little hard to come by nowadays? :-DThu, 27 Dec 2012 07:00:33 GMTTravisDBAhttp://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic466359-263-1.aspxI had to force feed a good sized snake once. The trick is pushing a rubber tube down into his gullet. A new use for KY jelly.Thu, 27 Dec 2012 06:26:19 GMTjay-hhttp://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic466359-263-1.aspxA whole lot more "fun". Especially since they can't spit it out all over you (yuck!):DMon, 17 Mar 2008 08:19:48 GMTMG-148046http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic466359-263-1.aspxnever heard of that. For whatever reason my wife has the tubes, but I'll mention the powder. That sounds more fun than putting on a halter and sticking my fingers in their mouths!Mon, 17 Mar 2008 08:17:17 GMTSteve Jones - SSC Editorhttp://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic466359-263-1.aspxSteve - I'm sure you are giving a "bute" paste (or horse aspirin). Ask your vet for the flavored powder. I find that apple flavored bute powder works well. We sprinkle it on the grain and shake to coat most of the grain.Mon, 17 Mar 2008 06:24:37 GMTMG-148046http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic466359-263-1.aspxGreetings,Just dip the pill into peanut butter or strawberry jam (It is harder to make the jam stick on the pill than peanut butter) and give it to the dog. If it does not work because the dog refuses it or spit it out after sucking the peanut butter, begin with treat cookies with a little bit of peanut butter on it. The dog will be so used to get the treat awith the peanut butter that next time he will get the medication, he will swallow it.However, I can say I almost never had to do that last part. Most of dogs (Exccept Steve Jones one...hehehehe) love peanut butter and they will get right through the pill. Sometimes, the dog can drop the pill on the ground, just pick it up and give it to him right away. Dogs are creature of habbits, constance and strick structure. They are like us DBAs: They strive when there is a definite framework. If the habbit is not there, create it. Use another abbit to bring a new one (He loves cookies, bring him to love piils with a common denominator:peanut butter).My dogs come everywhere with us. They are afraid of almost nothing. I even got them used to firearms shots by using a nailgun when I do woodworking as much as I can in their presence. If we have a home invasion, I think the dogs know better than us what to do (And it is not to run toward the intruder because we don't want our dogs between us and the intruder - Here I think only American will understand what I mean).At the shelter, a lot of volounteers could not shove into the dogs throat the pills (Sorry, I have no idea about cats because I am so allergic to them that I am never going closer than 20 feet of a cat.) and that trick was there when I arrived. I have no idea who worked on it first, but they all use it.Thank youTue, 11 Mar 2008 06:27:25 GMTkestak-508197http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic466359-263-1.aspxThanks for the complement and glad you like the site. It's as much Jeff, Matt, and others as me here making things work.My co-host in the middle was Khali. She's our 3rd Dane and she doesn't do the pills well either. She's learned how to extract the pill from peanut butter and cheese quite often, so she gets the throat jamming technique for some medicines.Tue, 11 Mar 2008 06:26:04 GMTSteve Jones - SSC Editorhttp://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic466359-263-1.aspxSo, tell us what the trick is...Tue, 11 Mar 2008 06:02:06 GMTJeff Modenhttp://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic466359-263-1.aspxGreetings,I am quite surprised by your dogs guys. We used that trick with litterally hundred if not thousand of dogs when I was working at the shelter (I moved and I am not longer volountering there). A lot of time it was hard to make the dog accept the threat, but once it is in the mouth, it is like it is in the stomach.One funny story: My great dane hate so much the vet that when she was giving her a cookie, she was litterally spitting it in her face. She was aiming her face, spit and then she was looking at me with what I would almost say a smile.BTW Mr Jones, I admire the work you did with that website. This site saved my butt a couple of times.Thank youTue, 11 Mar 2008 05:32:59 GMTkestak-508197http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic466359-263-1.aspxI had a dog like Matt's... the only way to get her to take meds was with a small enough piece of steak for her to swallow in one gulp... had to be real careful putting the pill into a cut in the steak. If you accidently touched the pill to the outside of the steak, she'd spit the whole thing out. Peanut butter didn't work... did like Matt's except she'd spit it out with enough PB on it that she never did get to taste it.The absolute best thing I found was a small ball of bacon grease... just set it on top of the dry food in a bowl...Mon, 10 Mar 2008 19:14:42 GMTJeff Modenhttp://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic466359-263-1.aspx[quote][b]Steve Jones - Editor (3/10/2008)[/b][hr]My one dog doesn't like peanut butter. First dog I've seen like that. American cheese folder around the pill works well.giving a horse aspirin is a pasty material. We've tried some stuff, including apples, and they'll skip it because of the bitter taste. Some times you need to just shove it in there :)[/quote]Mine's Ninja dog. Pretty much anything you wrap or hide the pill in - she will lick the pill clean and spit it at you... (wagging her tail and telling you she didn't fall for it). She opens doors too! So - the only way to make it work is the "frontal assault": pry jaw open, put pill in the back of the throat, close, and rub throat until she swallows.By the way Steve - you haven't mentioned the name of that SQL MVP standing next to you in the picture today?Mon, 10 Mar 2008 13:55:24 GMTMatt Miller (#4)http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic466359-263-1.aspxMy one dog doesn't like peanut butter. First dog I've seen like that. American cheese folder around the pill works well.giving a horse aspirin is a pasty material. We've tried some stuff, including apples, and they'll skip it because of the bitter taste. Some times you need to just shove it in there :)Mon, 10 Mar 2008 13:50:43 GMTSteve Jones - SSC Editorhttp://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic466359-263-1.aspxGreetings,I know this comment is not related to SQL Server, but it may help some people with their small and bigger "pets". Too many times I see people strugling (Even vets!!!) to give medication.For the dogs, when you need to give a pill, just dip it into peanut butter or fruit jam. I still have to find a dog who will not eat the pill right through.For the horse, just take an apple, cut it in half and put the pills in the apple half (Most the the horses will eat the alf apple, but with a full apple, they make drop some pieces out of their mouth.Thank youMon, 10 Mar 2008 12:58:21 GMTkestak-508197http://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic466359-263-1.aspxglad to hear someone likes the chaotic atmosphere of development. I definitely prefer the routine, mostly boring, occassionally exciting work.Mon, 10 Mar 2008 09:59:24 GMTSteve Jones - SSC Editorhttp://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic466359-263-1.aspxRoutine? Normal? Daily grind? I have not been anywhere close to those concepts for years! When my customers need something they need it now! (Side Note: For those in the U.S. you've been seeing those ads: "It's my money and I need it now!")I've began to plan crises. It's easier on management and takes the pressure off of sales. They can shoot from the hip and let us tech services geeks hammer out the details. Why should they do anything different? :rolleyes:If I were going for routine I could always say, "Paper or plastic?" or "do you want fries with that?" I could always go back to running an insurance agency. I sort of like the adventure. Software is not boring. I know, personally, two of the three guys that invented the Top 40 radio format. But "time, temperature, and play the records"? Not for me.Don't get me wrong. The folks that do the routine jobs are just as valuable and every bit as worthy. Often we take them for granted. But these are the people who keep the lights on, the water flowing, and the garbage gone. Never forget that. It's just my job to make the tools that they use. It's my job to make their job easier.Mon, 10 Mar 2008 09:25:21 GMTCharles Kincaidhttp://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic466359-263-1.aspxYeah, not sure I'd do suppositories!Feeding again this week, though no meds. I do have one locked up, so it's plenty of scooping action.Mon, 10 Mar 2008 07:23:31 GMTSteve Jones - SSC Editorhttp://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic466359-263-1.aspxOral meds? Lucky... at least they weren't supositories ;)Mon, 10 Mar 2008 06:59:59 GMTJeff Modenhttp://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic466359-263-1.aspxI feel for you! In a previous life I managed a dairy operation... trying to give meds orally to cows can be, a chanllenge, to say the least. Just pray your horses do not get mastitis....Mon, 10 Mar 2008 06:49:53 GMTAnders Pedersenhttp://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic466359-263-1.aspxI forget which CEO of which Japanese company (suspect Honda) said this, but a memorable quote for me is, "Doing business is like shaving. No matter how well you do it, tomorrow you'll get up and have to do it again."Of course, I have a beard, but I like the quote anyway ;)Mon, 10 Mar 2008 05:47:16 GMTmajorbloodnockhttp://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic466359-263-1.aspxNicely done! Podcast is pretty darned cool, too!Sat, 08 Mar 2008 20:53:50 GMTJeff Modenhttp://www.sqlservercentral.com/Forums/Topic466359-263-1.aspxComments posted to this topic are about the item [B]<A HREF="/articles/Editorial/62390/">The Daily Routine</A>[/B]Sat, 08 Mar 2008 20:25:53 GMTSteve Jones - SSC Editor