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RE: The Knowledge Graph

Steve Jones - SSC Editor — Thu, 31 Jan 2013 11:36:47 GMT

[quote][b]jasona.work (1/30/2013)[/b][hr].... Red Thunder {novel by John Varley}[/quote]Red Thunder is one of my favorite books. It's the start of a trilogy, but the best one, IMHO.

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djackson 22568 — Thu, 31 Jan 2013 09:36:30 GMT

RE: The Knowledge Graph

Miles Neale — Thu, 31 Jan 2013 09:26:53 GMT

[quote][b]Scott Anderson-466019 (1/30/2013)[/b][hr] ... I wonder how many DBA’s are worried even more about changes to their job if it does so?[/quote]Probably more should be, but not because their work will go away. Rather the concern should be that their work could dramatically increase.m.

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Scott Anderson #2 — Wed, 30 Jan 2013 15:52:41 GMT

Knowledge Graph – interesting, another big data Graph database. This is my current interest and learning path as I can see Graph databases taking off more than NoSQL did. As it sits on top of NoSQL and relational SQL, I wonder how many DBA’s are worried even more about changes to their job if it does so?

RE: The Knowledge Graph

Steve Jones - SSC Editor — Wed, 30 Jan 2013 10:35:36 GMT

[quote][b]Jeff Weight (1/29/2013)[/b][hr]Ambitious project, definitely. I'm a bit skeptical that Google can determine what is fact and what isn't. I think the end result will net something like Wikipedia - never fully trusted.[/quote]I worry too, especially if they use algorithms to determine value.However if they limited this to domains, it could be interesting.

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Miles Neale — Wed, 30 Jan 2013 09:59:57 GMT

Searching? We are just starting to see it become interesting. What the industry has done to this point is to supply a card catalog of articles and the content of some. It has tapped into parts of what is digitized, and more is becoming digital each day. Remember Google scanning books and making them available on line? Remember all the digital books for sale on Amazon now? And remember complex search algorithm, and then OLAP, now Big Data and more to come. We have to remember to the creative genius the tools of today are but toys to be played with to understand and create further approaches and management of data. In my professional lifetime I have seen what appeared to be impossible become everyday. There is more to come. Also remember in the movie Armageddon Oscar comments about space. To paraphrase him:This is searching! Course, we're just in the beginning part of searching, we haven't even got to *really* searching yet! M.

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kevin77 — Wed, 30 Jan 2013 09:42:23 GMT

[quote]Can we build engines that can divine the context of what we are looking for?[/quote]Yes. Have you seen IBM's Watson? It kicked *** on Jeopardy.

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jasona.work — Wed, 30 Jan 2013 08:55:30 GMT

[quote][b]bwillsie-842793 (1/30/2013)[/b][hr]Does Google, Twitter, Facebook, or any company ever discuss internally the consequences on society if their "latest, greatest, most wonderful" technology is taken to it's "logical extreme" by: (1) Criminals, (2) Psychopaths, (3) Ex-spouses, (4) Overzealous law enforcement, (5) Extremists of any ilk, (6) Governments that contain any or all of the prior?In a discussion recently a co-worker mentioned the idea of someone on a subway with a pair of "intelligent glasses" linked to face recognition software that searched facebook and other sites for matches, then automatically sent a tweet out "I just saw (person XYZ) on the (specific subway line) between stations C and D."Consider the "synergy" and consequences of the intersection of those two paragraphs... Think I'll stay off Facebook another year... :)[/quote]I can't think of the name of the book, although I think the author might be Charles Stross, in which just about EVERYONE wore "intelligent" glasses with cameras, constantly recording. Think of it as the equivalent of everyone walking around with their smartphones out, recording everything as they go about their day.Not to say I like or approve of such an idea (hmm, maybe I'll look at buying a couple acres in the U.P. and go hermit if / when this becomes common,) but it's almost already here.As for self-driving cars, frankly, I'd love such a thing, at least on the freeways. Going for a 4+ hour drive somewhere? Hop on the freeway, engage the "auto-drive," and pull out a laptop / book / take a nap. Also explored in SF (Minority Report, Red Thunder {novel by John Varley}, Demolition Man all come to mind)Jason

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djackson 22568 — Wed, 30 Jan 2013 08:51:53 GMT

[quote]Perhaps there's a way for us to actually mine the data we have about a customer, or a situation, and present results that are more relevant and useful[/quote]Please, just no.I have a dream that one day people who run companies and make these decisions on marketing come to the understanding that people hate it. Maybe we need to take every marketing employee, every sales employee, and every college employee involved with this, and place them in a very small room and play TV ads, radio ads, have telemarketers call them constantly ...I am inundated with unwanted interuptions constantly from companies that not only want to sell me something, they feel it is acceptable to lie about it and say they aren't selling anything, they are trying to help me! Honestly, I cannot think of a single time that someone made an attempt to sell me something that I actually needed! When I want something, I know where the store is, I know how to search for it on Amazon or Google, I am perfectly capable of buying what I need without assistance!Magazine ads targeted to readers, like those in trade magazines, at least make some sense, but even those have a very low success rate. Less than 1% of direct marketing leads to a sale.Trying to improve the hit rate, and even quadrupling that rate - which is not a reasonable goal - will only serve to cause an increase in attempts, and more annoyances.Please, no.

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djackson 22568 — Wed, 30 Jan 2013 08:27:17 GMT

[quote][b]Jeff Moden (1/29/2013)[/b][hr]BWAAAHAAA!!! "Driverless cars". We already have those where I live. The drivers are electric shaving or putting on lipstick while texting, trying to manage a bagel, doing the balancing act with a bottle of water or a cup of coffee, and doing just about anything else you can think of except for... driving. :-D[/quote]A former neighbor of mine used to drive home from work while transcribing notes he made on a voice recorder onto his legal pad. This was between towns that were around 90 miles apart, and where he had to go through Chicago on the way. He drove this for years without any issues. You have to keep in mind that some of the highways, although the speed limit is 55, if you do anything less than about 80 the state cops will run you off the road! He normally made the "run" in about 75 minutes due to the time of day he commuted.On the other hand, I know people that can't drive when the only thing they are doing is driving!To me, I don't care what you are doing, as long as you are competent and not causing problems. Driverless cars will be a huge issue, and I am against them, but if we could design them so the idiots had to use them, and they stayed in the right lane, and actually did the speed limit, the rest of us could get to and from work safely. Some people can drive, some people can't tie their shoes.

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TravisDBA — Wed, 30 Jan 2013 07:57:00 GMT

I think Google is reading way too much of their own press clippings and it is going to their heads. :-D

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Eric M Russell — Wed, 30 Jan 2013 07:32:22 GMT

The Thinkmap Visual Thesaurus links a database of 145,000 words[url]http://www.visualthesaurus.com/[/url]It would be interesting to see MSDN do something similar with .NET or SQL Server Books Online.

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RayC-714046 — Wed, 30 Jan 2013 07:02:21 GMT

How many decades have we heard reference to the "Starfleet Database", where the crew of any starship in any part of the galaxy can find out information about any person in history whenever they want to. Is this what Google wants? I think that having all the social media sites growing with all the subscribers photos, videos, posts, and other personal information is building towards something like this gigantic data source that can be accessed by anyone at anytime. Think about it. How often do we hear that law enforcement can access your Facebook and Twitter information to see what criminals have been posting out there.

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bwillsie-842793 — Wed, 30 Jan 2013 06:27:53 GMT

Does Google, Twitter, Facebook, or any company ever discuss internally the consequences on society if their "latest, greatest, most wonderful" technology is taken to it's "logical extreme" by: (1) Criminals, (2) Psychopaths, (3) Ex-spouses, (4) Overzealous law enforcement, (5) Extremists of any ilk, (6) Governments that contain any or all of the prior?In a discussion recently a co-worker mentioned the idea of someone on a subway with a pair of "intelligent glasses" linked to face recognition software that searched facebook and other sites for matches, then automatically sent a tweet out "I just saw (person XYZ) on the (specific subway line) between stations C and D."Consider the "synergy" and consequences of the intersection of those two paragraphs... Think I'll stay off Facebook another year... :)

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john.martin 5194 — Wed, 30 Jan 2013 05:31:15 GMT

Within the medical field researchers into DNA have developed searching algorithms that attempt and have succeeded in places where patterns within the data have been discovered. The spokesman I heard said that the statistical analysis has got to the stage of running scenarios that can adapt to useful lines of enquiry to determine correlations that would be certainly impractical by traditional methods.

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Jeff Weight — Tue, 29 Jan 2013 23:01:31 GMT

Ambitious project, definitely. I'm a bit skeptical that Google can determine what is fact and what isn't. I think the end result will net something like Wikipedia - never fully trusted.

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Jeff Moden — Tue, 29 Jan 2013 22:36:07 GMT

BWAAAHAAA!!! "Driverless cars". We already have those where I live. The drivers are electric shaving or putting on lipstick while texting, trying to manage a bagel, doing the balancing act with a bottle of water or a cup of coffee, and doing just about anything else you can think of except for... driving. :-D

The Knowledge Graph

Steve Jones - SSC Editor — Tue, 29 Jan 2013 22:19:58 GMT

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