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RE: A Brief History of SQL

amackie — Tue, 14 Sep 2004 02:04:00 GMT

"So what’s next? Well, at a minimum SQL4 is due to be released in this century."

SQL:2003 has already been published.http://www.acm.org/sigmod/record/issues/0403/E.JimAndrew-standard.pdf

Yet another standard for vendors to ignore.

Andy Mackie

RE: A Brief History of SQL

valko — Sat, 11 Sep 2004 12:10:00 GMT

nice article but something is missing:

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

"Sybase SQL Server" was the name of Sybase Corporation's relational database product.

It was originally created for UNIX platforms in 1987. In 1988, SQL Server for OS/2 was codeveloped for the PC by Sybase, Microsoft, and Ashton-Tate. Ashton-Tate divested its interest and Microsoft became the lead partner after porting SQL Server to MS Windows NT.

Microsoft and Sybase sold and supported the product through version 4.21. In 1993 the codevelopment licensing agreement between Microsoft and Sybase ended and the companies parted ways.

In 1995, Sybase released SQL Server 11.0. Thereafter, it decided to better differentiate its product from Microsoft SQL Server by renaming it to Adaptive Server Enterprise in versions 11.5 and beyond.

Further History... Sybase was founded by Bob Epstein, the architect of a product called the Intelligent Database Machine (IDM) from Britton-Lee. This was a computer that only did relational database. It used IDL as its native language (similar but not identical to SQL). The architecture of that product was used as the starting point for Sybase, which began development from 1984(?). Beta testing of Sybase's first product started in 1986.

Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sybase_SQL_Server"

RE: A Brief History of SQL

jvg — Fri, 10 Sep 2004 06:54:00 GMT

I liked the article. It was easy to understand, so I don't think any typos got in the way. Even Frank's signature was intriguing:

"Frank Wenn Englisch zu schwierig ist?"

So I took a look at the site (http://www.insidesql.de). Frank, judging by the first sentence, German doesn't seem to be very different from English:

"Hier finden Sie zahlreiche Artikel, FAQs, Links, Tips und Tricks rund um den Microsoft SQL Server."

RE: A Brief History of SQL

Mike Anderson — Fri, 10 Sep 2004 06:32:00 GMT

I felt the content was interesting. It sure would have benefitted from a good proofreading however. One more example of shoddy publication.

RE: A Brief History of SQL

MUHAMED NIYAS CHELADATHIL — Wed, 04 Aug 2004 07:02:00 GMT

Wonderful article. I was searching for a article like this for long time.Great work. Congrats CM Niyas

RE: A Brief History of SQL

Frank Kalis — Thu, 18 Sep 2003 03:45:00 GMT

Just wanted to add a link to a resource that most authors refer to as not (fully) available online.A Relational Model of Data for Large Shared Data Banks by E. F. Codd http://www.acm.org/classics/nov95/toc.htmlI think this is the full text.For those who are interested.Frankhttp://www.insidesql.de

RE: A Brief History of SQL

Antares686 — Tue, 16 Sep 2003 05:55:00 GMT

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Do you think Oracle has this one weakness

No it has more, thankfully thou there are a lot of third party apps and oracle addons you can pay large sums for to fix these. However looking at what they are planning for next release EM they may be finally stepping up to the plate with quality.

RE: A Brief History of SQL

Frank Kalis — Tue, 16 Sep 2003 05:37:00 GMT

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The problem I see is that all my encounters with Oracle replication methods means a large possibility for many gaps in data and lags in processing. Our problem management system is on Oralce and the replication has been known to replicate everything but a handdull of records which magicly appear days later.

Do you think Oracle has this one weakness Frankhttp://www.insidesql.de

RE: A Brief History of SQL

Antares686 — Tue, 16 Sep 2003 04:04:00 GMT

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What do you think of his GRID computing?
I will say, I'll answer this very carefully. AFAIK GRID computing is like having a single, large virtual computer.I'm really not sure what to think of this whole 'unifying thing', although the intention is honorable.

The recent articles on it left me thinking it is nothing more than load balancing on a cluster style system with replication between node networks.The problem I see is that all my encounters with Oracle replication methods means a large possibility for many gaps in data and lags in processing. Our problem management system is on Oralce and the replication has been known to replicate everything but a handdull of records which magicly appear days later.

RE: A Brief History of SQL

Frank Kalis — Tue, 16 Sep 2003 00:48:00 GMT

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Good one. In recent days I heard about Hirarchial Databases. What about them? Have they released??

The hiearchical database model is somewhat older than the relational model. I think the most prominent system is IBM's IMS which (still) runs on older mainframe systems. With the evolution of object-relational or object-oriented DBMS this model has some kind of revival. If you could wait some time, I've finished an article on this topic in german. Needs only to be translated to english. Then fine-tuned and hopefully published.Frankhttp://www.insidesql.de

RE: A Brief History of SQL

gundapaneni — Mon, 15 Sep 2003 23:21:00 GMT

Good one. In recent days I heard about Hirarchial Databases. What about them? Have they released??madhusudannaidugundapaneni

RE: A Brief History of SQL

Frank Kalis — Fri, 12 Sep 2003 00:33:00 GMT

sorry,

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There are some nice comments, in addition to yours, in a paper called

...'The 1995 SQL Reunion'.Btw, the only source I found where it is mentioned why SEQUEL/2 had to be renamed.FrankWenn Englisch zu schwierig ist?http://www.insidesql.de

RE: A Brief History of SQL

Frank Kalis — Fri, 12 Sep 2003 00:30:00 GMT

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More of the topic in:http://www.nap.edu/readingroom/books/far/ch6.html

good link. I know this one already.

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Without Codd's (http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edgar_F._Codd)SQL, Ellison (http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Ellison) will not be flying his jets by now..

There are some nice comments, in addition to yours, in a paper called

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What do you think of his GRID computing?

I will say, I'll answer this very carefully. AFAIK GRID computing is like having a single, large virtual computer.I'm really not sure what to think of this whole 'unifying thing', although the intention is honorable.FrankWenn Englisch zu schwierig ist?http://www.insidesql.de

RE: A Brief History of SQL

Jags2001 — Thu, 11 Sep 2003 14:51:00 GMT

More of the topic in:http://www.nap.edu/readingroom/books/far/ch6.htmlWithout Codd's (http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edgar_F._Codd)SQL, Ellison (http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Ellison) will not be flying his jets by now..What do you think of his GRID computing?

RE: A Brief History of SQL

Frank Kalis — Thu, 11 Sep 2003 01:49:00 GMT

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Well get to work already, what else have you got to do that is more important

if you ask me this way???Nothing but a stupid number crunching on this years' forecast and next years' planning and estimating where stock markets will end this year (and usually be totally wrong, that's why I need to work anyway) and integrating this estimation into the forecast and the planning and estimating.....SNAFU !!!!!!Frank

RE: A Brief History of SQL

philcart — Thu, 11 Sep 2003 00:23:00 GMT

Well get to work already, what else have you got to do that is more important Hope this helpsPhill Carter--------------------Colt 45 - the original point and click interface

RE: A Brief History of SQL

Frank Kalis — Thu, 11 Sep 2003 00:06:00 GMT

Hi cppwiz, hi phillcart,are you mind-readers? Btw, I think I have read something of a company called Sybase, but I can't really remember right now Anyway, something in this direction is already planned and in the pipeline.Frank

RE: A Brief History of SQL

5409045121009-7368 — Wed, 10 Sep 2003 22:55:00 GMT

RE: A Brief History of SQL

philcart — Wed, 10 Sep 2003 17:39:00 GMT

Good article, one for the trivia buffs I'd also like to see Part Two, but it should cover the variations offered by different vendors. Might be a little harder to pull together Hope this helpsPhill Carter--------------------Colt 45 - the original point and click interface

RE: A Brief History of SQL

cppwiz — Wed, 10 Sep 2003 11:37:00 GMT

Great article but I think there needs to be a sequel, er... I mean Part Two that covers the 1990's. Especially some history on the relationship between Sybase and Microsoft in the early days of SQL Server.

A Brief History of SQL

Frank Kalis — Fri, 29 Aug 2003 00:00:00 GMT

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