November 21, 2015 at 11:02 am
Comments posted to this topic are about the item Visual Studio Subscritions
November 23, 2015 at 12:53 am
Seeing as I personally pay for a Visual Studio Enterprise annual subscription I would love a more cost effective (read lower) pricing policy.
I am not sure if I was starting developing today that I would go down the Microsoft route simple due to licensing fees. When I consider that I find it difficult to justify it to clients. Fortunately, a lot of clients fiend themselves in the same boat as me and would find a more away from Microsoft tools costly in terms of time and, therefore, money.
Gaz
-- Stop your grinnin' and drop your linen...they're everywhere!!!
November 23, 2015 at 6:38 am
For the cost of MSDN I can afford training, which turns out to be an better investment career wise.
November 23, 2015 at 6:55 am
chrisn-585491 (11/23/2015)
For the cost of MSDN I can afford training, which turns out to be an better investment career wise.
Not if you need to use the licensed software!!! :blink:
Gaz
-- Stop your grinnin' and drop your linen...they're everywhere!!!
November 23, 2015 at 9:08 am
chrisn-585491 (11/23/2015)
For the cost of MSDN I can afford training, which turns out to be an better investment career wise.
In what way? Is it because you do better being led through a topic in an organized fashion than working through a subject yourselve?
What training is $1200? Most are around $500/day, or $2000-2500/wk. If it's online training, perhaps that's lower, but it's still not inexpensive for training.
November 23, 2015 at 9:55 am
Spelled subscription wrong:-)
Its interesting to see MS moving to the subscription model and doing so at reasonable prices. For most employees Im not sure it matters - they get a license and thats all that matters. The free versions of VS (and SQL) allow a whole lot of learning at a price that is hard to beat. I suspect the subscription cost matters most to small companies/solo consultants.
November 23, 2015 at 9:58 am
Andy Warren (11/23/2015)
...I suspect the subscription cost matters most to small companies/solo consultants.
Correct!!!
Gaz
-- Stop your grinnin' and drop your linen...they're everywhere!!!
November 23, 2015 at 10:41 am
Andy Warren (11/23/2015)
Spelled subscription wrong:-)Its interesting to see MS moving to the subscription model and doing so at reasonable prices. For most employees Im not sure it matters - they get a license and thats all that matters. The free versions of VS (and SQL) allow a whole lot of learning at a price that is hard to beat. I suspect the subscription cost matters most to small companies/solo consultants.
Ah, I'm an idiot. Corrected spelling.
Certainly Visual Studio Code and eval versions might be good for many.
November 23, 2015 at 11:53 am
Not if you need to use the licensed software!!!
As an individual, I can train almost as well on the cheap development copy of SQL Server and the free Visual Studio version. (Actual development is done on the company or clients dime and time. We have test workstations and servers with licensed software.)
The money spent on a personal MSDN is better spent on PluralSight, Udemy and a ORA Safari subscriptions. Plus the occasional book or such. And time online reading documentation or blogs. As for OSS software that I use for 50% of my jobs? Subscription cost is affordable... :hehe:
Plus MS is embracing OSS. I can use C#, ASP.NET or F# on Linux. Database maybe different, but it's not expensive. 😀
As for expensive training courses? I wish. But wish in one hand...
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