Release unused space in the mdf file

  • We recently upgrade to sql standard to sql Enterprise. We ran a maintenance job which defrags, reindex and cleans the table of our largest tables and runs a shrinkfiles on the logs to clean up after each one. Our database grew from 74 gig to 95 gig we ran the task to shrink the data file and released the unused space this freed up 2 gig. Would upgrading to standard to enterprise cause the increase in data size, or do we need to tweak the settings in the maintenance job? Dbreindex is set to 100 and the cleantable set to 0 shrink file set to 0 and the truncate only any assistance is greatly appreciated

  • I'm not sure what caused your data file to grow and why you were unable to shrink it more than 2 gb, I wouldn't worry about it unless I really REALLY needed that disk space for something else and was absolutely sure that I'd never need it for this database.

    Now, there is a time and a place for everything, but shrinking can be bad for your SQL Server's health and is usually better left undone except on an ad hoc basis where it's either absolutely necessary or you know for sure you have a lot more filespace than you'll need in the foreseeable future. Shrinking as part of a regular scheduled maintenance job is usually a good way to cause more problems than you fix: It will add extra overhead and consume system resources + your file systems will gradually get more and more fragmented when you're constantly shrinking a little here and growing a little there.


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  • Is there away without shrinking the database to get back the space when we delete big files in our database?

  • Its not wise to do shrink operations on production dbs.

    I have a script (not on this laptop) that shows the size of all the tables in the db.

    If you restore the previous db elsewhere if you have a backup of it. Then run the script on both dbs it will tell you what tables have grown. You should be able to find such scripts on the net.

    SQL COMPARE(REDGATE) will show the row mismatch.You maybe able to get an EVAL version for free.

  • Bobby Glover (11/9/2012)


    ...

    SQL COMPARE(REDGATE) will show the row mismatch.You maybe able to get an EVAL version for free.

    If you need to compare the data sql compare is a good choice (Note this site is run by redgate but i dont work for them, they just make good stuff) and it has a 14 day trial.


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  • What are the results when you run the script on the link below in your database?

    Script to analyze table space usage:

    http://www.sqlteam.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=61762

  • let me check

  • i get this

    FileSizeMBUsedSpaceMBUnusedSpaceMB

    0.750.290.46

    83198.0074874.758323.25

    83198.7574875.048323.71

  • dsanchez-630020 (11/9/2012)


    i get this

    FileSizeMBUsedSpaceMBUnusedSpaceMB

    0.750.290.46

    83198.0074874.758323.25

    83198.7574875.048323.71

    Why did you remove the Type and DBFileName columns from the query?

    Why did you leave out the table size query result set?

  • Try this

    -- Table and row count information

    SELECT OBJECT_NAME(ps.[object_id]) AS [TableName],

    i.name AS [IndexName], SUM(ps.row_count) AS [RowCount]

    FROM sys.dm_db_partition_stats AS ps

    INNER JOIN sys.indexes AS i

    ON i.[object_id] = ps.[object_id]

    AND i.index_id = ps.index_id

    WHERE i.type_desc IN ('CLUSTERED','HEAP')

    AND i.[object_id] > 100

    AND OBJECT_SCHEMA_NAME(ps.[object_id]) <> 'sys'

    GROUP BY ps.[object_id], i.name

    ORDER BY SUM(ps.row_count) DESC;

  • If I were you firstly I looked Standart Reports Disk Usage

    And if index usage is high i look at the index fill factor

    if it is low and tables are not much insert update or delete

    i increase that table fill factor.

    And the other hand i suggest i need table compresion

    if you have enough cpu resource you can compress table which

    mostly read activity.

  • Try this for table and index usage info. If updates are high since last sql server restart then set the fill factor should be set low.

    use databasename

    go

    SELECT

    OBJECT_NAME(S.[OBJECT_ID]) AS [OBJECT NAME],

    I.[NAME] AS [INDEX NAME],

    USER_SEEKS

    ,

    USER_SCANS,

    USER_LOOKUPS

    ,

    USER_UPDATES

    FROM SYS.DM_DB_INDEX_USAGE_STATS AS S

    INNER JOIN SYS.INDEXES AS I

    ON I.[OBJECT_ID] = S.[OBJECT_ID]

    AND I.INDEX_ID = S.INDEX_ID

    WHERE

    OBJECTPROPERTY(S.[OBJECT_ID],'IsUserTable') = 1

    Not my script I found it on the net. I'm not on my laptop

  • dsanchez-630020 (11/9/2012)


    Is there away without shrinking the database to get back the space when we delete big files in our database?

    did you try rebuilding your indexes ?

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  • Hi,

    If space is an issue you can archive data from you biggest tables and make them accessible via a view.

    When you archive data based on years to seperate DBs, you can take older

    DBs offiline.

    Here's the code I used to check the size of my tables and DBs.

    DECLARE cTbl Cursor FOR SELECT Name FROM sys.Tables WHERE is_ms_shipped = 0 AND [Schema_ID] = 1

    DECLARE

    @SQL Varchar(MAX),

    @Tbl NVarchar(128)

    CREATE TABLE #Space

    (

    Name Varchar(128),

    Rows BigInt,

    ResVarchar(20),

    Data Varchar(20),

    Idx Varchar(20),

    Unused Varchar(20)

    )

    OPEN cTbl

    FETCH NEXT FROM cTbl INTO @Tbl

    WHILE @@FETCH_STATUS = 0

    BEGIN

    SET @SQL = 'INSERT INTO #Space EXEC sp_SpaceUsed [' + @Tbl + ']'

    EXEC (@SQL)

    FETCH NEXT FROM cTbl INTO @Tbl

    END

    CLOSE cTbl

    DEALLOCATE cTbl

    SELECTName [Table Name],

    Rows,

    CAST(LEFT(Res, LEN(Res) - 3) AS Int) / 1024 ResMB,

    CAST(LEFT(Data, LEN(Data) - 3) AS Int) / 1024 DataMB,

    CAST(LEFT(Idx, LEN(Idx) - 3) AS Int) / 1024 IdxMB,

    CAST(LEFT(Unused, LEN(Unused) - 3) AS Int) / 1024 UnusedMB

    INTO#SpaceMB

    FROM#Space

    SELECT * FROM #SpaceMB WHERE Rows > 0 ORDER BY Rows DESC

    SELECT'Total MB',

    SUM(Rows) Rows,

    SUM(ResMB) ResMB,

    SUM(DataMB) DataMB,

    SUM(IdxMB) IdxMB,

    SUM(UnusedMB) UnusedMB

    FROM #SpaceMB

    SELECT 'Total GB',

    SUM(Rows) Rows,

    SUM(ResMB) / 1024 ResGB,

    SUM(DataMB) / 1024 DataGB,

    SUM(IdxMB) / 1024 IdxGB,

    SUM(UnusedMB) / 1024 Unused

    FROM #SpaceMB

    DROP TABLE #Space

    DROP TABLE #SpaceMB

    Hope this is useful.



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  • dsanchez-630020 (11/9/2012)


    Is there away without shrinking the database to get back the space when we delete big files in our database?

    Paul Randal's Shrink Alternative:

    So what if you *do* need to run a shrink? For instance, if you've deleted a large proportion of a very large database and the database isn't likely to grow, or you need to empty a file before removing it?

    The method I like to recommend is as follows:

    • Create a new filegroup

    • Move all affected tables and indexes into the new filegroup using the CREATE INDEX ... WITH (DROP_EXISTING) ON <filegroup> syntax, to move the tables and remove fragmentation from them at the same time

    • Drop the old filegroup that you were going to shrink anyway (or shrink it way down if its the primary filegroup)

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